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why we go to partys to dance and feel enlighted?
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 01:14:24
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why we go to partys to dance and feel enlighted?
after partyng and partyng and taking acid again and again and again, i wonder why should i keep going to partys if is always the same?
maybe i could use this money in other things, or instead of feeling over and over that i know "the truth of life" after this super trips.. (which it doesnt help me to find a job)i could simply stop my brain for a moment and enjoy my present time, like for example, washing the dirty dishes.
do we need partys and drugs to feel that we have achieved a high level of consciousness?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 01:47
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It seems you've totally missed the point.
Start by finding a job, then buy a dishwasher and then choose the parties you go to more carefully...and if you consume acid, make sure it does not consume you.
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 02:06
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ok cool i will think about that tenx. but u havent answered my question yet.
why u go to partys? ok u go u dance u trip u experience things and then what? u need another party another confirmation more information more knoledge more for what?? what do you do with all this after??? thats the question.
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Fometrius
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 02:30
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I view the psytrance party as the modern answer to old times ritual or like some kind of initiation to the inner world and to what`s inside us.The artist or dj is the shaman and the public is participating in the ritual.All parties does not fill that function and some are not so oriented at getting the crowd in a deep trance state but many does.
I also view it as a time when often like minded people gather and dance to the same music they like and share the same vibe with each other and have fun.
I dont see why listening to psytrance should stop you from taking care of ordinary life.One should have a balanced life
For me personally it is all about the music,sure a party can be fun sometimes but the main thing is absolutely the music ,to listen to it when home,in my earphones when doing stuff,when at friends places, etc.To find new fresh released stuff and to produce myself when i feel for it and dig deeper into the magic world of sonic soundwave creation.
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 02:35
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 03:21
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On 2010-02-16 02:06, Serag wrote:
ok cool i will think about that tenx. but u havent answered my question yet.
why u go to partys? ok u go u dance u trip u experience things and then what? u need another party another confirmation more information more knoledge more for what?? what do you do with all this after??? thats the question.
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I enjoy my self. I feel better, makes them everyday chores that you could have done if you hadn't gone to parties and work, a lot more bearable.
I don't go to parties because there is something for me to gain at the end...the parties I like, I find my self wishing they'd never end.
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Run Lola
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 04:48
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each person has its way to open up and get enlightened, some people meditate, run, hike, ski, do yoga, go shopping for expensive shit. It doesn't mean that we are more enlightened because we listen to trance, eventhough that's what many people think here, it means that this how we find our kick.
If you started asking yourself those questions (what's the purpose) then it's time for you to make a change. Any passion needs to be cultivated, so if it reach a stagnant point, you will realize that you're bored. so consume less substance, go to less parties, be more selective, grow up and be useless to people around you. |
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 09:40
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"so consume less substance, go to less parties, be more selective, grow up and be useless to people around you".
this is exaclty what we should not do. so the people who maditate, run, hike, ski, do yoga or simply dont go to partys are boring ? at least this people is sharing their knoledge instead of just watching everything from a "higher" place like u pointed, "It doesn't mean that we are more enlightened because we listen to trance"
but what im trying to understand here is that if trance partys are responsables of changing lifes, why there are no outcomes? when lsd was dsicovered there was an outcome, when electronic music started, there was an outcome, so what is the outcome of trance partys?
what does trance partys have to give to this world?
i love trance partys and see my friends and all but i dont feel that im really giving something back to the world after all what this partys has giving me, to muhc knoledge and love and understanding for what? i would like to share all this instead of just consuming it, but i dont want to share it just in trance partys. |
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 10:20
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I love this music & dancing my heart out & connect to the like minded people, exchange vibes; that's why.
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 10:20
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i go to parties to get smashed up, enlightenment comes the next day in form of a Hangover
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive |
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 13:28
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We go to parties to listen to the music we like, like we would go to a concert or to see a favorite band playing live
We go to listen to the music i think
Acid, mushrooms and whatever psychotropic entheogenic substances can be used for enlightenment , self knowledge, lost of ego purposes outside a party area too, without music at all
Just because this music speaks much more easily to an "experienced" or "unlocked" brain doesnt mean you need both worlds imho, and music and substance every time you experience each one of them.
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Fometrius
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 13:54
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On 2010-02-16 09:40, Serag wrote:
"so consume less substance, go to less parties, be more selective, grow up and be useless to people around you".
this is exaclty what we should not do. so the people who maditate, run, hike, ski, do yoga or simply dont go to partys are boring ? at least this people is sharing their knoledge instead of just watching everything from a "higher" place like u pointed, "It doesn't mean that we are more enlightened because we listen to trance"
but what im trying to understand here is that if trance partys are responsables of changing lifes, why there are no outcomes? when lsd was dsicovered there was an outcome, when electronic music started, there was an outcome, so what is the outcome of trance partys?
what does trance partys have to give to this world?
i love trance partys and see my friends and all but i dont feel that im really giving something back to the world after all what this partys has giving me, to muhc knoledge and love and understanding for what? i would like to share all this instead of just consuming it, but i dont want to share it just in trance partys.
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One who enters deep trance states and often go inside the own psyche and are doing different types of "spiritual practices" such as yoga etc often gets so see "eternal truth`s" about life,what life is and how one should live the own life.And this truth and knowledge about life and what life is and what you yourself is and how you and everyone else works is not effected by time and culture.You get to get beyond the limited timebound and culture bound values and ideas of life to something that are always there and always knows and are not effected by time ,place,culture.This can be very healthy to do and make you grow as a person and understand more about life and therefore you can change the world and help the world in a positive direction since you yourself understands more about it.
One should try to spread the way people should be to each other and toward the nature with how one self act.Be the change you want to see in the world yourself.Be the knowledge that you know in the way you act and do things.
The shamanic psy experience under the right circumstances(if it is not like a cheesy commercial one) is just as the old time ritual and therefore allows yourself to explore more of what`s inside you and how things work and that make you grow as a person and mature.And if you are more mature in your way of thinking and understanding life you have better possibilities to give something good back to the world
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 14:43
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thank you Fometrius
so we could say that trance partys, like any other shamanistic rituals, helps to build the spirit, which will help other people throu the example in our daily life.
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 14:51
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On 2010-02-16 10:20, Xolvexs wrote:
i go to parties to get smashed up, enlightenment comes the next day in form of a Hangover
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LOLZZZZZZZZ 
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Run Lola
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Posted : Feb 16, 2010 18:54
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On 2010-02-16 13:54, Fometrius wrote:
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On 2010-02-16 09:40, Serag wrote:
"so consume less substance, go to less parties, be more selective, grow up and be useless to people around you".
this is exaclty what we should not do. so the people who maditate, run, hike, ski, do yoga or simply dont go to partys are boring ? at least this people is sharing their knoledge instead of just watching everything from a "higher" place like u pointed, "It doesn't mean that we are more enlightened because we listen to trance"
but what im trying to understand here is that if trance partys are responsables of changing lifes, why there are no outcomes? when lsd was dsicovered there was an outcome, when electronic music started, there was an outcome, so what is the outcome of trance partys?
what does trance partys have to give to this world?
i love trance partys and see my friends and all but i dont feel that im really giving something back to the world after all what this partys has giving me, to muhc knoledge and love and understanding for what? i would like to share all this instead of just consuming it, but i dont want to share it just in trance partys.
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One who enters deep trance states and often go inside the own psyche and are doing different types of "spiritual practices" such as yoga etc often gets so see "eternal truth`s" about life,what life is and how one should live the own life.And this truth and knowledge about life and what life is and what you yourself is and how you and everyone else works is not effected by time and culture.You get to get beyond the limited timebound and culture bound values and ideas of life to something that are always there and always knows and are not effected by time ,place,culture.This can be very healthy to do and make you grow as a person and understand more about life and therefore you can change the world and help the world in a positive direction since you yourself understands more about it.
One should try to spread the way people should be to each other and toward the nature with how one self act.Be the change you want to see in the world yourself.Be the knowledge that you know in the way you act and do things.
The shamanic psy experience under the right circumstances(if it is not like a cheesy commercial one) is just as the old time ritual and therefore allows yourself to explore more of what`s inside you and how things work and that make you grow as a person and mature.And if you are more mature in your way of thinking and understanding life you have better possibilities to give something good back to the world
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that's why I say be more selective in your parties, go to the ones that you think will add something to your experience.
grow up by allowing those parties to add something to your knowledge (music, art, community feeling...)
be useful to people, to the community in your own way.
no matter to how many parties you go to, how many acid trips, how many shamanic gatherings you attend, meditation hours, yoga positions, don't expect that there will be a magical light that will come down from the sky and suddenly uncover the truth of life and show you the path... you have to use those experiences and interpret them and understand how you can use them to be a better person. |
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