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why there is no well known artitsts that participate in this forum?
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Aug 14, 2011 19:03
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On 2011-08-14 18:27, Padmapani wrote:
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On 2011-08-14 07:30, Beat Agency wrote:
I dont think "famous" guys give better advice than other less known audio geeks.
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you do know that you'd be one of the 'famous' guys? ;-)
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I don't know about that. Maybe a used to be known 
Anyway I am not the most technical artist in the world. I know my way around equipment from experience but when it come down to explaining it to other people I am not sure I am the right one to ask
But point is that I actually think in some cases a less known but more "geeky" technical guy is a better "teacher" than a "famous" artist
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 18:16
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I hope Will will become famous soon. He explains stuff very well. And it's mostly his own discoveries from endless abuse of Ableton.
P.S. Sorry about that word redundancy. I thought "Will shall" would sound too ... hmm ... British. Wouldn't want that to happen, right?  |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 18:41
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I think advanced artists must find it hard to explain stuff to newbies... the gap is day by day larger as they can see a much bigger picture from music, life and everything. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 18:59
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Well thank god you see less artists sharing stuff. Psy already sounds all the same. Moment u give up a production trick then everyone is using it.
Some diversity pleaaaaase! |
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syntesis
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 19:27
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It would be nice to have master advices here, but anyway I think we can help each others beeing amateurs. The amount of sound techniques we have learned has been improved by:
1.- The amount of hours in the studio in trial-error
2.- The amount of hours going to curses, reading and watching tutorials videos
3.- Aleatory and personal circunstances (for example, if my favourite color is the green maybe unconsciously I pay more attention to this green plugin, and because your favourite colour is red you spend more hours exploring the red plugin).
Maybe the sound masters own 500 sound techniques, but with our 50 techniques I think we can be usefull between ourself. If I like electronic music (I had the superior degree in clasical guitar but electronic music made me left it) is because the freedom of techniques: don´t tell me the right things in how to make it because in this other way it also works... Don´t follow a system allready invented, invent your own. Just try it, if doesn´t work look for another, and again and again till you get it!!!
Maybe I´m not Tristan or Ital, but I love my machines and it can be usefull for the others...
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 19:28
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On 2011-08-15 18:41, aciduss wrote:
I think advanced artists must find it hard to explain stuff to newbies... the gap is day by day larger as they can see a much bigger picture from music, life and everything.
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with all do respect.... what would infected for example come here and say? take a k-station preset, tweak the portamento, compress the hell out of it, play some chords?
and to say someone sees a bigger picture in life just because that someone made more $ off music, i can't dig that sorry.
come on man..
also would like to add, some people can be late bloomers, you never know where the path of the people posting here will take them.
The Way Back
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 20:38
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On 2011-08-15 18:59, bukboy wrote:
Well thank god you see less artists sharing stuff. Psy already sounds all the same. Moment u give up a production trick then everyone is using it.
Some diversity pleaaaaase!
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agree i didn t created this topic about this but more cause i find it nice to talk about production with other audio geeks. more geeky stuff, i like to talk more in depth and technical more than how you did this did that.. i m not intrested into these discusion ,when i asked some artists what they use for bassline or stuff like this it s just cause i m curious, they can use the synth they want i will still use my favorites one and process it the way i like.
it remind me when domestic said he like to use cronox 2 ,since then cronox 2 have been so much overused lol so yes it can have a negative effect leading to even more cloned music/production but thats what they want so... |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 20:53
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I think experienced artists with many tracks released and played to crowds all over the world could have much more to say than just preset usage but since talking about technique and gear takes knowledge it would be hard to explain to everyone how to get this or that.
It happens to me personally as I advance and my production gets better it is harder to explain how to do it without going into a lot of little details, information i've gathered over the years that a newcomer might find overwhelming to deal with at once.
I appreciate the presence of many experienced guys at this forum, and many great names have been around but certainly few speak about specific production stuff (like that Ido post on clipping cubase master ch or Protoculture mastering tips).
I do believe there are certain tips & tricks if not secrets that really make the difference. From vsts to techniques and sound timbres, i certainly have my own and i share when i feel it appropriate, i'd love to ask guys like Astrix, Absolum, Loud, Paul Taylor , Mad Maxx, Earthling, Brainiac and many others about specific stuff they do.
I've the fortune to know a bunch of really good producers which had been helpful in my music development. But yeah, in mostly any realm i know pros hardly ever share their secrets and my guess is that happens no because they being stuck up or snobbish but because it would be pointless to throw pearls to the pigs.
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syntesis
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 20:57
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so yes it can have a negative effect leading to even more cloned music/production.
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I´m not agree, I show my techniques and you choose the staff better for you, and you mix my technique with yours improving the one I teached you... and then you show your new one and I get it and improve it mixing it with the one of XXX dude, and so on...
I think to share techniques enrich us, like to mix race genes does with the living beings...
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 20:58
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On 2011-08-15 20:53, aciduss wrote:
I do believe there are certain tips & tricks if not secrets that really make the difference
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that myths bro ,someone can have a way to make a lead or a bassline that he find secret lol.. but about production quality it s all about learning to listen there is no secret , one can have pro sound with the included plugin in his daw these day (i mean good psytrance sound ,for pro sound no comprmise is better and i think analog stuff sound better,eqs and comps ) |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 21:05
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Well then I love myths and know a bunch.
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 21:10
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it remind me when i was begining i thought my sound was different and not as good cause i didn t use compression lol, plenty of producers imagines stuff like this .. like there is secret stuff everyone know but not them lol |
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 21:12
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On 2011-08-15 20:57, syntesis wrote:
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so yes it can have a negative effect leading to even more cloned music/production.
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I´m not agree, I show my techniques and you choose the staff better for you, and you mix my technique with yours improving the one I teached you... and then you show your new one and I get it and improve it mixing it with the one of XXX dude, and so on...
I think to share techniques enrich us, like to mix race genes does with the living beings...
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when it s not about copying just for copying it enrich us agree you re right |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 22:25
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On 2011-08-15 21:10, PoM wrote:
it remind me when i was begining i thought my sound was different and not as good cause i didn t use compression lol, plenty of producers imagines stuff like this .. like there is secret stuff everyone know but not them lol
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Oh well yeah, i thought it was impossible to get proper psysquelches without expensive hardware synths.
One side of the coin is knowledge about this stuff, music, audio and understanding it unlock certain possibilities...
Other side (imho) is the information on the traditional techniques in psytrance production... from the use of 303, to goldrays and psysquelches... goa kicks and classic arpeggiators. that is just your everyday bread in this biz... i have learned tons from you guys about this stuff, like careful bitcrush settings on drumloops, hard quadrafuzz on percussive elements, stereo spreading leads, meticulous pitch mod settings, psyish granual vocal editting and so on... it is just a bunch of tweak here and there.
For me this so critiqued elements in psy production are just the "tricks" we psy producers do... just like metal guitarists can palm mute and hammer on, and skate guys do kickflip and ollie we psysquelch and psyfart... but those are just building blocks for greater stuff.
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 14:49
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On 2011-08-14 05:47, willsanquil wrote:
Is every thread full of blue knowledge? No - but if you dig around and search through you'll find a surprising amount of stuff.
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i miss undertow i haven t learn anyhting here since he is gone tbh and i guess it s the same for many posters |
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