why some dark labels and artist use satanic iconography??

On 2008-05-16 06:30, pipe&slippers wrote:

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On 2008-05-16 03:57, Aluxe wrote: I don't know what we are discussing here anymore.

In a nutshell:


topic starter: "why some dark labels and artist use satanic iconography??"

some random user: "cause dark trance is shite"

some dark lover: "bullshit, dark is teh real psychedelic, it is killargh"

followed by more posts from like minded dark lovers which frequently post on internet message boards.

then some random guy that listens to a lot more techno than "psy-trance", although for some strange reason, he posts on psy-trance message boards, wrote: "bollocks, dark music is not really dark, its just music for retarded kids pretending to be all bad ass like, but they have more spots on their faces than the sky has stars on a real dark night. It also happens that the only real tits they ever saw, were their sisters when they "accidentally" walked in on her when she was having a shower. shortly after they had a 15sec wank is the bathtub, smelling her dirty knickers"

then some random user wrote: "for fucks sake, you guys don't like anything...is there anything that's ok on this world?"

then some wise user, obviously experienced in all important matters of life, promptly wrote: "yes, tits, especially fake ones."

the some random guy wrote: "you can't measure art. these covers are fine and they are truly psychedelic"

then some other user wrote: "of course you can measure art, these covers are shite, along with the music that comes with them"

some dark lover: " no its not shite"

some dark hater: "yes it is"

some dark lover: "its not"

some dark hater: "it is"

...
5 pages later
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some dark lover: "it isn't"

some dark hater: "it is"

some artist: "you guys have way too much time on your hands" and then goes on to a long post about him self and his works. No one cared.

some dark lover: "you has bad taste, dark is teh rEaLz PsYcHeDelIc, i knowz, i has taste, better than you.

some dark hater: "well it is my opinion and I am free to talk crap on line, so there. neener neener..."

some poor soul that had far too many drugs to even bother writing something that is remotely coherent and makes any sense whatsoever, wrote: "ZATAN "

On 2008-05-14 05:44, DETOX wrote:
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE MUSIC OR THE IDIOTIC COVERS OR THE TRACK NAMES OR WHATEVER.THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS THING IS LABELLED AS PSY TRANCE WHEN IT HAS TO DO VERY LITTLE WITH PSY TRANCE NOT TO SAY NOTHING.

On 2008-05-16 12:08, Zero-Blade wrote:
ROFL, and than fullon and progressive is psychedelic? Haha, yeah, right...

On 2008-05-19 18:16, Jedi_knight wrote:

For e.x.: How can you outburst the bad energy when your hear pop tunes and see smily faces?
It doesn't fit...

On 2008-05-19 00:04, DETOX wrote:

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On 2008-05-16 12:08, Zero-Blade wrote: ROFL, and than fullon and progressive is psychedelic? Haha, yeah, right...

I dont know if they are (or even if they want to be in the case of progressive) but for sure they dont use the term psy next to them like "Dark Psy" does.

On 2008-05-19 19:56, -=Kotten=- wrote:
Death and destruction is all theese dark psy lovers want to bring to the world... :-(

On 2007-11-22 00:38, gazella wrote:
maybe I'm high or simplly kuku ...but its all about the vibe

On 2008-05-19 23:46, Yuli wrote:
I think that the usage of satanic iconography on ANY kind of art, without really meaning it, just to make it LOOK "darkish" and "spooky" it pretty much sums up the whole story about this kind of music.

To start it, using this iconography for fun, is just a showcase of how shallow and childish and sometimes not very smart ppl might be.. These symbols ARE evil, and not because of some grandma that told you so. They have a certain past and they do certain work that apparently some of those that use it "just for fun" simply don't perceive. But hey, to make it simple, if you don't mean nothing but to make a supppppa evvviiiilll cover but some kid takes it a little too far and cuts up his little sister as a sacrifice to lucifer, then it can get little nasty.

And furthermore, if those labels or artist DO believe in those marks and iconography, it is defintiely not trance, and there are other genres to make it fit quite cozy BUT

Usually the creators of that Satanic trance are usually ( in my humble opinion ) artists that were not successive enough to get their fame in the original genres of that music - death metal? trash metal? don't know really the names but its not of importance, since its much easier to paint 16th note basslines on sequencer 160 bpm than actually play them like those bands, does it?

But back for what I wanted to say is much shorter than this whole message I made...

USING THOSE IMAGES JUST FOR FUN IS PRETTY WRONG, AND WHAT IT DOES, THERE IS MUCH MORE TO IT THAT ANY OF US UNDERSTANDS. I WOULD THINK TWICE IF I WERE U.

On 2008-05-19 23:46, Yuli wrote:
I think that the usage of satanic iconography on ANY kind of art, without really meaning it, just to make it LOOK "darkish" and "spooky" it pretty much sums up the whole story about this kind of music.

To start it, using this iconography for fun, is just a showcase of how shallow and childish and sometimes not very smart ppl might be.. These symbols ARE evil, and not because of some grandma that told you so. They have a certain past and they do certain work that apparently some of those that use it "just for fun" simply don't perceive. But hey, to make it simple, if you don't mean nothing but to make a supppppa evvviiiilll cover but some kid takes it a little too far and cuts up his little sister as a sacrifice to lucifer, then it can get little nasty.

And furthermore, if those labels or artist DO believe in those marks and iconography, it is defintiely not trance, and there are other genres to make it fit quite cozy BUT

Usually the creators of that Satanic trance are usually ( in my humble opinion ) artists that were not successive enough to get their fame in the original genres of that music - death metal? trash metal? don't know really the names but its not of importance, since its much easier to paint 16th note basslines on sequencer 160 bpm than actually play them like those bands, does it?

But back for what I wanted to say is much shorter than this whole message I made...

USING THOSE IMAGES JUST FOR FUN IS PRETTY WRONG, AND WHAT IT DOES, THERE IS MUCH MORE TO IT THAT ANY OF US UNDERSTANDS. I WOULD THINK TWICE IF I WERE U.