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why some dark labels and artist use satanic iconography??

Psytracked
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:40
why some dark labels and artist use satanic iconography?? to be more specific

my answer.... what the fuck does it matter what they stick on the cover.......surly its the music that matters? or do you have a specific problem with a certain sub-genre?           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
Dennis the menace
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:40
Fuck this, im out... point made i hope.

openminded suckers
DETOX
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:43
Dennis i dont like at all that Wizzy cover and i said that countless times,it was their album they chose it since it was part of our aggreement.

Good and bad art is in the eye of the beholder indeed but what belongs to art and what not has some limitations like i already explained.Painting Jesus pissing on Buddha cant be considered as art for example not only because it is visually disgusting but also because it has no message to deliver at all.

And by the way the whole discussion here is not whether dead bodies and satan are considered as art on cd covers or not but whether they serve a purpose for being there or if they are just used for marketing reasons and to attract listeners attention.

Thats the main argument here in case you havent noticed.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
DETOX
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:48
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On 2008-05-20 23:40, Psytracked wrote:
my answer.... what the fuck does it matter what they stick on the cover.......surly its the music that matters?



It matters when they label their music as psy trance.

Psy trance has absolutely nothing to do with death and satan and their deeper meanings.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Psytracked
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:50
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On 2008-05-20 23:43, DETOX wrote:


Painting Jesus pissing on Buddha cant be considered as art for example not only because it is visually disgusting but also because it has no message to deliver at all.



Actually I would find that very fitting for our time really. After all Buddhism has spread across the west over the last few decades and Jesus pissing on his head could very well represent the 7th day adventists feelings about it.

You have hidden talent their DETOX           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
Psytracked
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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:54
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On 2008-05-20 23:48, DETOX wrote:
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On 2008-05-20 23:40, Psytracked wrote:
my answer.... what the fuck does it matter what they stick on the cover.......surly its the music that matters?



It matters when they label their music as psy trance.

Psy trance has absolutely nothing to do with death and satan and their deeper meanings.





fuck you if you think you can dictate what psy-trance is or isn't about. Like art its in the ear of the listener/beholder.

It is the insistence of trying to hold on to something which can not be permanent that is destroying the scene. Time isn't going to stand still. deal with it           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
HiGheR^AcCeSs


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Posted : May 20, 2008 23:59
^man whats your problem...relax...your so LOUD            To FiNd YouRsELf YoU GoTTa LoSe YouRsELf FirSt!
-=Kotten=-


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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:01
Maybe the next step in this would be to arrange sprinklersystems spraying pigsblood on the dancefloor...
DETOX
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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:01
Ok then psy trance is also related to polka because they are both fast in tempo.

Have a good night too mate.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
HiGheR^AcCeSs


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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:02
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On 2008-05-21 00:01, -=Kotten=- wrote:
Maybe the next step in this would be to arrange sprinklersystems spraying pigsblood on the dancefloor...



           To FiNd YouRsELf YoU GoTTa LoSe YouRsELf FirSt!
Psytracked
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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:07
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On 2008-05-20 23:59, HiGheR^AcCeSs wrote:
^man whats your problem...relax...your so LOUD




sorry dude but got a thing about fascist dictators. I believe in standing up to them. If you don't like it then well put me on ignore or something.           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
Dennis the menace
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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:08
ok Detox im here again =)
dunno if you heard of the mohammed caricatures.. well its freedom of speech here. like it or not..

We do have it in this part of the world even tho i agree it was a bad move to publish it.



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On 2008-05-21 00:01, -=Kotten=- wrote:
Maybe the next step in this would be to arrange sprinklersystems spraying pigsblood on the dancefloor...



Maybe the next step is for you to turn of your tv and come back to reality..

ciao
Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton

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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:12
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DETOX
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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:13
Ofcourse i know about them Dennis but i cant accept something as freedom of speech/art when it insults millions of people around the world and i am happy you also found that as a bad move along with the huge majority of the world.

Freedom doesnt mean anarchy where everyone does whatever he likes.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
thegooddale
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Posted : May 21, 2008 00:14
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On 2008-05-20 22:07, Pavel wrote:
I'd accentuate what Yuli wrote and would like to hear from the artists/label owners what is the artistic value of blood/satan/pentagram/whatever imagery on covers.
Any of the 100s of artists that dwell on this forum and promote their noise would like to comment on that?




How about that it looks fucking awesome... Could you imagine if psytrance producers got networked with some of the artists making really evil imagery out there? I think the hardcore kids are raising the bar for sure.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=72959300&albumID=762624&imageID=2066891
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