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Why is there less bass in Darkpsy than Fullon and Progressive?

Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 15:18
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On 2007-10-18 14:52, Side-A wrote:
good explanation mate , thank you for taking the time.i agree with most of it.
about the "cool" thing, i don't think music is made to look cool...one doesn't spend hours on production just to be cool, but more likely to reach the best sound possible in order to get the better dynamic and the best render on the speakers
being cool on the other hand would more likely be: spend the less time possible on production, be proud of it and show it off with some kind of childish punk attitude...the attitude is very important here because without it, all their anarchist music producer concept would fall out...

As far as i'm concerned i don't think music is about attitude



Sure....I agree that one can do without all the attitude but I do think that just as many producers in the polished==good camp have an attitude thinking they are cooler than the "darkpsy kids". Maybe it's not as in yer face many times (Atma excepted ), but they are still suffering from the same holier than thou mentality.

In their defense (and mine as well...I'm not exactly free of attitude myself ), even if I often don't agree with the mentality I think it's somehow engrained in the music making and DJ'ing process to be a bit judgemental.
It's all about passing judgements as to what works or not, and if you can do it with as little attitude as possible that's great, but it's not surprising that you find a lot of people with strong opinions and a lot of attitude among producers and DJ's.
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olivier
Side-A

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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 15:47
indeed , you're right again!
nothing more to add
have a nice day
piXan
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 16:59
just one thing i can say

Artifakt!!!


Dark, Breaks the rules, Good Producer and Way koooool!!! Certainly got Bassss
Pavel
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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 19:32
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On 2007-10-18 16:59, piXan wrote:
just one thing i can say

Artifakt!!!


Dark, Breaks the rules, Good Producer and Way koooool!!! Certainly got Bassss



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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 22:54
Labels and judgements...





Funny to watch           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 22:54
and I dont mean labels as in recordlabels           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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Medea
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 00:17
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+1

though almost anyone can learn a think or two from ghreg




+10 =)
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 08:56
i dunno about less bass etc .. but yeah .. do this all .. just pick 10 random prog / fullon .. and compare to 10 random `darkpsy` releases .. and you will find that yes indeed .. darkpsy quality for the most part is sux .. atma didnt say anything wrong there .. dunno why ppl getting all defensive / aggressive .. dark is inferior quality music technically .. but it outscores the clubby prog and generic fullon in many many other areas ..
Alias
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 09:15
well....we talking about production here not the music itself
may be the dark producers\fans here feels very small ...thats why they defensive

dark production quality is crap...in most releases

I'm totally agree with Atma

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PoM
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 10:48
dark producers try to sound underground (getting a dirty sound help )you can t compare both,the psy/dark production give a vibe to the tracks too. but for me lot of crystal clear full on is not better produced, it all depends what good production is for you.i like more a dark track with low rms and dynamics than crystal clear full on too much compressed.
piXan
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 10:56
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you gotta disociate the musican's work from the producer's





really?????? i think th3e problem is that u cant see a difference....
Alias
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 11:02
im with you on this one Pom

check for example talpa's album......i love this dirty sound! or X- Dream.....wich is good example for this thread (kick&bass combo)

and ofcourse psykovsky(imho one of the best artists in psyscene)......all his production made with purpose

but so called "darkpsy" is very very bad production....very bad mixing skills
bad mastering

p.s:
i will post later some videos from russian darkpsy parties!
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piXan
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 11:11
so what music are u calling darkpsy then? the one u say its bad? who are u to say anything is good or bad... this thread is LAME!!!
Alias
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 11:18
dark psy is sandman, x- dream, mfg, parasense, psykovsky.....just few examples

and we talking about production here not the music itself! read before quick reply!


btw: excellent thread
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piXan
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 11:21
Quote:

On 2007-10-19 09:15, Alias wrote:
well....we talking about production here not the music itself
may be the dark producersfans here feels very small ...thats why they defensive

dark production quality is crap...in most releases

I'm totally agree with Atma







yeahh dark trance production sucks... i hope toxic
shift
phyx
artifakt
parasense
fungus funk
slug
hydraglyph

didnt ever exist....



so maybe then u made it bigggg
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