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Why is there less bass in Darkpsy than Fullon and Progressive?
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Djones
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 15:14
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I wonder, why is it that usually most Darkpsy music has less bass in the kicks than Fullon or Progressive Trance?
Is it because that's just the way it is and people prefer not to change it?
Or are they all convinced, that a less basier kick sounds better in Darkpsy? |
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makus
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 15:51
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there are some reasons, eg the tempo of the track. faster the track - less time for kick to sound, thats why it has less bass.
 
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 15:54
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 16:09
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not sure if there is less bass in dark psy , it depends the artists and it come from monitoring issu imo,bad speakers placment,small rooms... it can be artists who want lot of rms too .
there is the style of trance too, in progressive it s easier to have a nice low end but in all style you can with some work. |
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Medea
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 17:57
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Alias
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 18:01
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vipal
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 18:29
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in some darkpsy i tend to hear less transient and more bass in the kicks compared to FO. with ocelot for example. |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 19:16
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to say just a generic thing like production is not good is a silly childish statement man....
i would say just that the more elements and sounds in a mix the more dense it is and there is less headroom for each seperate sound.
 
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 22:25
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On 2007-10-15 15:54, Get-a-fix wrote:
I think its because in most cases dark psy has lower levels of production compared to full on or progressive.
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Mostly just >different< production
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 23:34
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Every generalization will collapse on it self... including this one
  "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity |
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Upavas
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Posted : Oct 17, 2007 04:08
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A big reason is that the sound is so fast that the kick cannot really play all of itself in conjunction with the bass. Other people might mix with a bassline that has most the bass and the kick has less...
I am sure the fact that the sound is more dense altogether in dark psy also contributes to that fact. One of my favorite dark producers remains Kindzadza, he always has such nice sound quality...
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Oct 17, 2007 08:14
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I know some very fast darkpsy with very nice deep bass
So, I agree and don't agree.
I don't agree... its not generally that darkpsy hass less bass.
but I agree in the cases where there is less bass it is often due to bad production, but also due to, I believe, it can be made sounding "harder" with less bass.
I personally certainly came across far more badly produced darkpsy then fullon. But its has been strongly changing in the last half year.
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Trip-
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Posted : Oct 17, 2007 08:29
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I think claiming that a fast bpm track doesn't have enough time for bass in the kick is a bit silly.
There are many fast tracks released since a long time ago, in any category or genre that are very nicely produced and mixed. (yes, even happy hardcore )
  Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 17, 2007 10:35
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Oct 17, 2007 10:49
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To make a kick with lots of low freq and a bassline to sound together, and the track to have a flow, it is one of the hardest part in the process of music creation (i talk about psy genres here).
Well most of the dark producers don't have the skills to do that and also they don't have time to process or finish properly a track because they must finish 1 track\day!
Sometimes it is easy to choose creativity and forget about the quality and professionalism, but of course, this idea it will always be accepted only by the amateurs.
If a good produced "progressive" or "full on" album takes more than 1 year of work, a dark album wont take more than 1 month.
Here is the trick !
  NEW ALBUM OUT SOON !!!
"ATMA - Music Revolution"
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