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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 17:58
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Hello,
so i just wonder,if its a special music writing trick that some tracks change their tempo just a little bit over and over the track.Like when i dj there are quite often tracks that run out of sync after a specific time and i have to readjust the sync..ok i gues its only the way how to set the bars like this part starts at 156.1.1.3 and so on..like until now i just set them all to -.1.1.0 so their are no sync issues while dj`n...does this make tracks sound more interesting?
any opinions?
greez
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 18:08
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 18:28
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Ok...that could be..
one day i tried just to cover the kick of the track thank you for calling by dino psaras, with my own kick..just to see whats really going on in this track...and i realized that at almost every 8th bar the kick ran out of sync...maybe its some kind of psycho acoustic trick and works just in subconciousnes..but i don`t know...maybe you just right about that...hehe
but i didn`t even check the exact tempo at that time...so could really be that its just produced at 147.536 or whatever.....
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 18:37
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use the jog =)
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 18:41
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i got no jog in my sequencer mate....
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 18:59
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 19:09
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that would have cause a problem during the track,wouldn it?i mean,if u use a lot ctrl+d,there would be an obvius synchronization problem with the other percussion elements 
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 19:09
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On 2007-10-20 18:59, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2007-10-20 18:28, Mtz Mtzz wrote:
Ok...that could be..
one day i tried just to cover the kick of the track thank you for calling by dino psaras, with my own kick..just to see whats really going on in this track...and i realized that at almost every 8th bar the kick ran out of sync...maybe its some kind of psycho acoustic trick and works just in subconciousnes.. |
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More likely he got the loop length slightly wrong when he bounced the kick down... 
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But do you think it was his intention to do so?Cause many people do it in their tracks...and i wonder if i just miss something...
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 20, 2007 19:16
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I think its all about the right bpm...means something like 147.536
I even found some loops on sample cds (singing) that was just perfectly looped at something like 147.536, so I think its pretty common cause its more like a natural tempo than a static 147.000
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 21, 2007 15:53
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frambonas
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Posted : Oct 21, 2007 18:30
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On 2007-10-20 19:09, Mtz Mtzz wrote:
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On 2007-10-20 18:59, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2007-10-20 18:28, Mtz Mtzz wrote:
Ok...that could be..
one day i tried just to cover the kick of the track thank you for calling by dino psaras, with my own kick..just to see whats really going on in this track...and i realized that at almost every 8th bar the kick ran out of sync...maybe its some kind of psycho acoustic trick and works just in subconciousnes.. |
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More likely he got the loop length slightly wrong when he bounced the kick down...
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But do you think it was his intention to do so?Cause many people do it in their tracks...and i wonder if i just miss something...
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If it's less then 30 ms i think it's just a psycho accoustic trick, it will feel faster, but you can't hear it.
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Elad
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:59
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1. i never seen artist make a track on not X.00 bpm.
2.i dont think artists slightly change bpm inside the track
3.some cd players can cause this
4.analog mastering + digital ><analog convertion can cause this
jog is the answer for "beat match" mixing with this kind of problems.
or get from artists (if possible) the songs before mastering , or check your cd player
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illusions
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 08:13
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On 2007-10-24 04:59, Elad wrote:
2.i dont think artists slightly change bpm inside the track
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Don't know about the rest of your points, but I've definitely come across tracks that change tempo in a track. Sirius Isness comes to mind. |
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 12:43
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RenderingRebel
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 12:52
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Its the select in loop + ctrl d thingy
When you do this often without zooming to the max everything is slighty off the beat, but its sounds synced because everything begins at the same point
When i started using the other tool (when you press 2, the one right next to the mouse tool) i lost this problem
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