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WHY I love to call it DARK PSY ( essay)
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moki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 12:49
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sergeantpepper666, sorry to tell you that but you are acting stupid. i know i am too direct but there must be also direct people on this planet. essays are not about refering, they are about views, and actually ok, this is not an essay, it is just some ideas put together. and yes i have done a university education here in germany, just finished it some months ago and i have written quite a lot of scientifical researches with referances to literature, but this here is not a scientifical research cause i dont wanna be read by scientists but by freaks and it is actually even more difficult to simplify than to write 100 pages. much more difficult to say it in 5 words. and the matter is that i know what i am talking about, i have read the scriptures too, i know that the hindu religion is not about worshipping the dark side, i dont need anywone to tell me that, but i am just talking about psy trance. i hope that if it faces its dark side, it will then end in light. and sorry but in a text written at 4 o clock in the morning , i guess i cannot be very scientifical. and still i wanna know the facts that are wrong cause it is important to me not to write wrong fact, opinions can vary.
yes i know i am not very good in putting ends, i dont know, it is just the impulse, i ve done it so often, i say i will never come back, and then i come. i guess i am really duobled. anyway.
Namaha, keep the good work and i am sorry to be disrespectful towards your culture. i was talking about psy trance actually...but you see, i am desrespectful towards my own religion too. towards the churches and the hieerarchy. i am anarchic. really. but thanks for the advise , i will be more careful in the future with cultures where i dont belong to.
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Ankur
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 13:05
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On 2008-12-05 12:49, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
sergeantpepper666, sorry to tell you that but you are acting stupid. i know i am too direct but there must be also direct people on this planet. essays are not about refering, they are about views, and actually ok, this is not an essay, it is just some ideas put together. and yes i have done a university education here in germany, just finished it some months ago and i have written quite a lot of scientifical researches with referances to literature, but this here is not a scientifical research cause i dont wanna be read by scientists but by freaks and it is actually even more difficult to simplify than to write 100 pages. much more difficult to say it in 5 words. and the matter is that i know what i am talking about, i have read the scriptures too, i know that the hindu religion is not about worshipping the dark side, i dont need anywone to tell me that, but i am just talking about psy trance. i hope that if it faces its dark side, it will then end in light. and sorry but in a text written at 4 o clock in the morning , i guess i cannot be very scientifical. and still i wanna know the facts that are wrong cause it is important to me not to write wrong fact, opinions can vary.
yes i know i am not very good in putting ends, i dont know, it is just the impulse, i ve done it so often, i say i will never come back, and then i come. i guess i am really duobled. anyway.
Namaha, keep the good work and i am sorry to be disrespectful towards your culture. i was talking about psy trance actually...but you see, i am desrespectful towards my own religion too. towards the churches and the hieerarchy. i am anarchic. really. but thanks for the advise , i will be more careful in the future with cultures where i dont belong to.
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u should really watch this:
http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/1002/Smug-Alert!.html
and stop smelling ur own farts!!!
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 13:32
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d-uh ok! I'm stoopid!? 
great way to make me want to show interest in what you are saying, as I am finding it interesting, but insulting me does nothing for your cause.
I never said you were stupid, just said having a few actual facts and quotes from the sources of religion, instead of your benial interpretations, would help to educate people in the way you think about psy trance. |
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moki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 14:20
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waht are the actual facts you mean????? should i refer to the religious sources to be more correct for you? what are the false facts. this is the question????? what are the false facts inside?????????? what are you talking about?
acting stupid. i said acting stupid. not that you are stupid. and besides the last sentence was not actually showing interest, it was a way to tell me to go and shut up.
ankur, what do you want to tell me? what is it about it that you dont like? i dont watch south park cause i dont have the time for that but what is it that you fucking try to say ? can you be more direct please? thank you. dont know you but i think you are trying all the time to say sth to make me feel bad about what i do. abusing will not help you though, this is for certain.
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 14:31
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ENOUGH!
You are self absorbed and overly insensitive to every person who does not agree with you, or does not bow down to your self involved idealistic view that you somehow have attained a high state of being than anyone else.
You show no respect or regard for anyone else's opinion, you do not understand that some of use actually tried to help you but you throw it in our faces.
You throw tantrums and carry on like a 3 years old child!
Grow the hell up and act like your age! |
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Remy [POF]
Principles Of Flight
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 15:11
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ahhh dude, i was looking for the same thing... 
it's fucking classic!! On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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moki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 15:31
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sergeantpepper666 go fucking get rid of your aggressions in the proper place man. i cant calm you down in this place, otherwise i could try.
dont tell me what is enough and what not.
i asked a simple human question what are the false facts. what are you preaching here like an idiot. tell me what you disagree and i can react. now i dont have anithing to agree or not, it is just the boring attitude i am used to in the trance scene. and btw there is someone i strongly respect and he is called goa gil and i think he will stay the only one to whose events i will still go. the others dont satisfy my needs. dont wanna be too generall but this is what i feel now. and of course the guys who organised the audio visual journey on the tibetan book of dead in switzerland. i love them too. but all else is just so fucking boring i cant express.
only one person in this discussion tried to help me and helped me, it was the indian guy running namaha. and althought i efinitely didnt like the way he attacked me, i found the depth of the wisdom behind what he said. and corrected the article. all others, what do i have to agree or disagree, you dont fucking say anything.
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Braindrop
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 16:25
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Round 4 : Moki rises from the ashes.......!!
Remyy... get ready!! 
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 16:45
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Moki...you have taken very interesting and noble ideals and focussed on only the negative or the demonic aspect of these ideals...when all these ideals in fact incorporate such aspects merely as a remedy for GETTING RID OF THEM.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead explains the Bardo Experiences, yes 2nd and even 3rd Bardo experiences that involve wrathfull demons...but the whole point of the Tibetan Book of The Dead is to explain that the soul must not bow or cower to these illusions, but stay strong in order to be liberated. So you use a very small part of the entire concept.
"The final words of the Bardo Thodol are: "Let virtue and goodness be perfected in every way."
"Be not fond of the dull smoke-colored light from hell." - Tibetan Book of the Dead"
What the hell is so Dark in all of this..in fact it seems to say that we should ignore people like you who continuously try to bring "The Dark Side" to the forefront. Because to seek liberation we should not cower to such spirits as yourself.
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 16:55
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On 2008-12-05 16:25, UrbanPsySpirit wrote:
Round 4 : Moki rises from the ashes.......!!
Remyy... get ready!!
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ohHhh... im not doing or saying anything anymore... there is no point...
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 18:41
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On 2008-12-05 12:49, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
i am anarchic. really.
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i thought that the anarchists moto is
NO GODS NO MASTERS
and they thing that spirituality is a fairytale for children
we all make mistakes but u overmake them
in one topic u praise the darkness
then u offer solution through spirituality and when noone agrees u blow the bomb and u declare yourself anarchist
for me you are the fascist stereotype
because u try to convince people that what u say,even if it isnt
is that an anarchist's way of expression?
please do yourself a favour relax and redescover yourself because i think that
u have lost it a bit
anyways
keep it up 
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moki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 18:41
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Fria, again, please dont talk about what you have not seen. At this party on the Tibetan Book of the Dead i made 6-7 hours of visuals on that and only 1,5 houurs were dark. The rest was respectively light first and then the peaceful visions ( Ocelot). At the end it was a lot of sexual visions for the progressive and full on part as well as rebirth and reincarnation visions. SO do you fucking get it. What are you teaching me so much? I am not focusing on the dark side only. But yes i love it most of all. Mainly because the music is so fucking appealing to me......But the tibetan book of dead, i spent months studing it before i made the visual mix, i dont think that you are such a big capacity on that to teach me.
May be i should post this visual mix at the end online for free. What am i fucking waiting for. The mix was anyway stolen ( the harddisc) last week from my ex guy at a party with Psykovsky and Ocelot so i guess now it is on the internet anyway. I should really post it. Can someone come and make the sound mix for it? Please contact me or come to me in Berlin. It will be interesting.
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moki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 18:51
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and another fucking loser post. yes i am a fascist, i will kill you all, right? I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU ALL, PREPARE TO DIE. you get it? go into your beds and fucking kiss your nice teddy bears cause the bad force is following you. you fucking get it? the evil fascist force is coming to dissect your bodies and feed itself with your little damaged brains. HA! BAU! GRRRRR! you got it? I AM EATING HUMANS! I AM A CANNIBAL! yes, the anarchist appeal is no gods , no matters, but it is spiritual in this anti religious approach too.
p.s. and i am not convincing anyone. i could today write an essay on the light side too. everything has two sides. |
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 18:58
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u are arrogaant and u deserve the piss u get
no more to say
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 19:02
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You may have spent months studying something from a very narrow viewpoint. This whole concept of Darkness, religion and sex is just overdone and a fallicy because usually these concepts are in conflict with each other. Religion does not advocate "Darkness", most of the time Religion advocates sexuality in a constrained manner, usually as a form of union of the souls. We could talk about Tantra and sexuality, but that is but a small part that actually takes away from the physical aspect of sexuality and is more yogic in nature, practiced by very few, and blown out of proportion by many. You keep calling Kali a "Dark" goddess which is just ridiculous. You have not grasped the esoteric nature of the imagery. You are continiuously trying to insist certain theories that are based on a very narrow (Kali has dark skin and wears severed heads, hence she is dark) and western viewpoint. You get defensive because you interpret it as an attack on your work, but in fact it is not an attack, merely a clarification of certain misconceptions. You get abusive because certain views expressed here seem to shatter you little make believe world. You have a right to interpret things as you insist, but if you propose to have it discussed in a public forum, you will obviously have to deal with people who do not agree with you. Why can't you conduct these conversations in a respectfull manner?
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