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why goa gil ?
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InSector
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 02:47
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who else can play 26,5 hour set? |
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Trick
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 04:08
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@urban psy spirit
why are you such a douchebag???
if you say need i not say more
than why do you go about saying more
fria or whoever is writing under tantrumm
dispelled the notion that gil is a sadhu
and refuted goapetes point
goapete understood that recongized it and stated it
and then you go about trying to make him look even more of an idiot with your unneeded comments
really people on this forum are ridiculous and
share none of the good vibes or intentions
that i think the original goa spirit intended
moreover i see this as a larger problem for the scene that comes up alot at parties all over the world. i have not been for a party now in over a year with truly positive energy where everyone was dancing in unison to the tunez and just stomping out with complete and utter happiness on ther faces and this includes parties all over the world....nyc,bbay,tokyo...the last party in nyc being a total disaster and making me shy away goin for anything for a long time unless i feel like the organizers and artists share exactly the same intentions i have
maybe that is what gil brings to the scene...not that he is a sadhu but that he tries to bring that pure goa spirit of completly forgetting about your individuality and sharing in the common spirit of the divien through dancing as meditation or maybe it as all complete bullshit...
i have been to one gil party in the outskirts of bombay for around 20 people but only came in late morning and had to leave early and thus did not really get the true experience so i am not to judge yet but really want to go to gathering of his and see if he recreates what i found so special in the good parties that i have been for...that special vibe which is completely subjective but i know how it feels and when i feel it again i will be soo happy
i hope someone maybe gil or anyone be it dj artists organizer dancer is still keeping the vibe alive because that is something truly truly special and i have been searching now for a while for it and i really hope it still exists with every bad party i go too my hope fades further and further away that a pyschedelic goa trance party gathering is special but isntead is just like every other electronic musical event where people do drugs get wasted hit on girls listen to some tunez and go home
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Braindrop
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 09:07
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On 2008-11-09 04:08, Trick wrote:
@urban psy spirit
why are you such a douchebag???
if you say need i not say more
than why do you go about saying more
fria or whoever is writing under tantrumm
dispelled the notion that gil is a sadhu
and refuted goapetes point
goapete understood that recongized it and stated it
and then you go about trying to make him look even more of an idiot with your unneeded comments
really people on this forum are ridiculous and
share none of the good vibes or intentions
that i think the original goa spirit intended
moreover i see this as a larger problem for the scene that comes up alot at parties all over the world. i have not been for a party now in over a year with truly positive energy where everyone was dancing in unison to the tunez and just stomping out with complete and utter happiness on ther faces and this includes parties all over the world....nyc,bbay,tokyo...the last party in nyc being a total disaster and making me shy away goin for anything for a long time unless i feel like the organizers and artists share exactly the same intentions i have
maybe that is what gil brings to the scene...not that he is a sadhu but that he tries to bring that pure goa spirit of completly forgetting about your individuality and sharing in the common spirit of the divien through dancing as meditation or maybe it as all complete bullshit...
i have been to one gil party in the outskirts of bombay for around 20 people but only came in late morning and had to leave early and thus did not really get the true experience so i am not to judge yet but really want to go to gathering of his and see if he recreates what i found so special in the good parties that i have been for...that special vibe which is completely subjective but i know how it feels and when i feel it again i will be soo happy
i hope someone maybe gil or anyone be it dj artists organizer dancer is still keeping the vibe alive because that is something truly truly special and i have been searching now for a while for it and i really hope it still exists with every bad party i go too my hope fades further and further away that a pyschedelic goa trance party gathering is special but isntead is just like every other electronic musical event where people do drugs get wasted hit on girls listen to some tunez and go home
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Wow. Trick. Douchebag? Cant do better eh ? Please keep ur shitty language to urself.
If u dont really have anything substantial to point out, i have to tell u dont waste ur time. Unless of course ur sucking up too. My point is not abt Gil not havin the vibe or spreading tht vibe. It's about how people assume he is a Sadhu and all that jazz. Which he definitely is not. Thats wat i pointed out earlier, And more so clearly someone from Tantrumm.
So if u really have something really realy worth to add to this, please continue. If you are talkin abt good vibes..? MAybe i shld post a link of your comments in a party thread!  .
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KundaliniRising
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 09:18
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Archetypes like Sadhu, Shiva , Kali, Ganesha, Baba etc are all used only for marketing and nothing else and nobody is to be blamed, as all these are a part of the package of this Monetary economy.
The Archetype Jesus was over-sold so nobody bothered using it in the scene.
and no-one was interested in using The Archetype "Allah", maybe they feared the "Jihad"
The Law of Perception says that in the battle between products, perception is more important than reality.
Marketing strategies without emotion will not work.
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Trick
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 14:47
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how am i sucking up???
i am not an expert on what makes a sadhu
and clearly tantrumm knows more on this subject
and i agree with her after reading the post
i only asked why are you belittling goapete after he agreed with her as well???
and i then went on to say that is indicative of the larger nature of the scene where people are not bringing the proper energy to parties and thus treating it like every other electronic music festival/party and i feel like the goa trance thign is a little different and special
i also said i went to a gil party
but arrived late and left early thus im no judge of the experience
plz post the link....
i made those comments because the music at the party was horrible and spread no good vibe
i will try and check my language and refrain using the word douchebag to describe your or anyones comments...point taken
however the psy scene is lacking in good energy esp at parties and if gil brings that to the scene boom to him
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 17:05
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UrbanPsySpirit, three times u have replied to what i had to say and all three times u have been very rude.
1) In ur first reply u say I do not know what i am talking about.
2)And then u said, this u hear from an indian. So plz...spare me the horror!
3)Lastly, i think my friend u are completely disillusioned... or sucking up.
You don't know me so take it easy and stop these personal attacks, It is so kiddish. It is just a forum and we are discussing a topic here and nothing else. I request u not to insult me. I am too old for all this nonsense. So stick to the topic my friend.
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Braindrop
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 18:02
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@ Goapete. I usually do not partake in heated forum discussions, because ultimately it leads nowhere. I pretty much have a similar feeling to this somehow.
But first of all, never my intention to insult u or anybody for that matter. As u mentioned, this is a forum and we are discussing a topic. When u have topics, there are different views. Some cld be for it, or against it.. just like a debate.
Well, the topic was something else and it somehow it led u to say that he is a Sadhu. I gave my views as to why he isnt... since this is a discussion.
Well... i said those for a reason, and that maybe u should think abt it, as to why i said so. As to ur referral as it being kiddish.. well i wldnt want to remark on it, as it may lead to something else. So i'll just let it go.
Anyways... i hope it is clear.
Back to the topic. I dont know .. why so... but i feel since he being an epitome of a music scene built on love, peace and energy... its kinda rude.
I suggest lets not make this A GOA GIL bashing thread.
@ Trick... if u always come to a party thinking that there is no good energy "these days".. Then ur reflecting ur energies to that party. Think positive.
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Trick
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 18:35
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i dont come to parties thinking there is no good energy
i go to parties with an clean slate hoping that it is goin to be special experience fully excited in ancipationg of the party give it a long and hard chance and then make a decision recently i have been let down unforutnaltey
do you think i would rather go to a party that i felt letdown at rather than goin for a killa scene??? uhhh no sorry im not that masochistic
i hope that this is just the parties i have chosen to go to however i was watching the highko interview on psy videos where the gil video was taken from and he said the same thing good parties are getting less and less and less
i do think positive my friend plz dont lecture me
boom
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 01:46
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polly
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 08:43
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Elad
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 09:07
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^^ yes he sure can do live of 8 or 9 hours , seen it and this was something special!!!
and its all his music not dj 
i can play my own original music for 4 hours easy , 5 or 6 if i play some old metirial too.. for dj set i bet i can pull of minimum 10-12 hours. oh and i can beatmix too 
if thats apealing enough for the scene i dont know but sure can be one of the most psychadelic and flowing events , one good diverse dj can create better story then change evry 1.5 hours or something..
havent been personly so i cant tell but as far i understand gil is far from diverse and play only dark psy and also cant mix that well at all.. personly i dont like bad mixes dunno.. even better to have just cd playing like at home rather then bad mix
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aXis
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 09:19
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psytik
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 10:25
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and his wife
what about his son ?
???????????
i think goa gil is just another product just to sell more .........not real for me |
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KundaliniRising
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 13:38
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On 2008-11-09 02:47, InSector wrote:
who else can play 26,5 hour set?
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i have heard that tim thick is cabable of making live set like that
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+1 |
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moki
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Posted : Nov 12, 2008 02:16
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Interesting to see that the video we made with GOA GIL is still a subject of discussions here on isratrance.
Usually I try to be silent while reading here because I have the feeling that the internet forums are generally a kind of separating the freaks from each other rathen than uniting them and it is unfortunately very easy to be missunderstood .
So, first of all, I want to repeat what I have always said about Goa Gil: I think he is the most incredible, the most striking and amazing personality in the scene that I have ever met. This is the person that brought me to the trance parties early in the 90ties ( at that time through the internet) and I think that every positive vision that I have about this culture, I owe exactly to him. So no matter how you want to categorise him, he is definitively a person that has given " initiation" to many people here and beyond isratrance and this is the first reason why I call his work sacred.
To the question if he is a saddhu or not. Well, I dont quite agree that a saddhu has no "identity" at all. He has no ego and is guided be the cosmic power but he might have a mission and thus a kind of a role. And as you probably already know, a saddhu is a kind of a warrior who protects the sacred. He can have a mission to be this or that, but it doesnt make him a person with ego or a person with identity, it is just his mission to be that, to have a kind of a role in this world. And Goa Gil has a big mission in this reincarnation, he has to be in both worlds at the same time, which is something very very different. Sure, he has had many insights in his life, early in his life, and he could have stayed forever in the mountains meditating in the caves but it is just not his mission! He has to be here and be a messanger, he has to be the channel.
I dont know why it is so important for you if he is a saddhu or not. By the way i have spent some time with other Indian saddhus, and i must confess that many of them were fake, believe me or not, it is your business, but i have seen with my own eyes that most of the saddhus nowadays are not following the traditions completely. Many of them have a girlfriend, have sex, or have possessions so the are not real either. And so what? I mean, the traditions have been changed or broken, at least this is what i think ,and it is possible that Goa Gil would not be pleased to read this if he would read here, but this is my opinion. I think that India is full of fake saddhus and i think that many of them are not following the traditions 100 percent. But it doesnt play any role for me, I dont like dogmatic traditions at all, especially as a woman i think that many things in the saddhu traditions are a mistake. So i will not follow the tradition either. But anyway for me Goa Gil will always be a saddhu, a modern one. Sure he is not a traditional one, i guess non of you has ever seen a real saddhu playing psychedelic trance, have you? So it is totally clear that he is a new definition of a saddhu but so what?
And about the flights, well why not? If it is his mission to spread the message, then it is normal that he has to be everywhere on the globe  . And this costs money...
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You may chant mantras for 20 years everyday all the time and truly believe that some effect is taking place, but no matter how sincere you maybe, effect of a mantra lies solely in the precision of the pronunciation, no matter how sincere one is, this precision unfortunately cannot be attained easily if one has not grown up in the land of mantras...and so it would never work...in the same way, no mater how strongly you or XYZ may believe that Gil is a Sadhu..he is not and never will be
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So the conclusion is that no one can be a saddhu if he is not born in India ? Dont really agree with that , especially because i know some saddhus and sattvis who are from elsewhere, and by the way they are very respected among the indian saddhus as well and are also very very traditional living in caves with no name and no posession. And is it so important where you have been born for the cosmic spirit? It is all the same, we just have different missions...
Oh yes, and by the way, someone mentioned Ariane, and i just wanted to say that she is also one of the most charming and incredibly talented personalities that i know. Big respect!
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