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aXis
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moki
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On 2008-12-04 08:20, Login wrote:
you know what would be really cool?
If all of us put the energy and wisdom we use to post here to make a party and have a good time together sharing some joints, beers and LSD.
It will blown my mind meeting many of you in person and have this long discussions face to face.
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what is so cool about this. i would better commit suicide rather than going to that. since i started to post here in your forum, i left all my plans for going to parties, if these are the psy trance freaks out there - no thanks. i can definitely live without them.
to colin: of course i can deny that cause it is not the first shit discussion i read about goa gil, and all i did was to post a video with him and after that to get hours of insultion from a high nosed indian woman who cant accept that she is not the only one in this world, followed by narrow minded indians and the new continent who have not even seen the sadhus i am talking about from inside. this is the most narrow minded discussion i have ever read in my life and it only shows how pity it is that you call yourself psy trancers.
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Funny, cos all those things you said about other people - "cannot accept she is not the only one in this world", "narrow minded", "hours of insulting" - from our point of view, these all apply to YOU. Can you see how this forum has been a mirror for all the things inside you that you don't like? For me, you have certainly been a mirror to my own impatience and need to be 'right', and you have helped me reaffirm changes I need to make in my own life. I would like to hear you say that you realise these things about yourself, and that you will try to learn from them and move on from the behaviour which has been so disruptive for this forum.
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Pavel
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On 2008-12-07 12:11, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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On 2008-12-04 08:20, Login wrote:
you know what would be really cool?
If all of us put the energy and wisdom we use to post here to make a party and have a good time together sharing some joints, beers and LSD.
It will blown my mind meeting many of you in person and have this long discussions face to face.
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what is so cool about this. i would better commit suicide rather than going to that. since i started to post here in your forum, i left all my plans for going to parties, if these are the psy trance freaks out there - no thanks. i can definitely live without them.
to colin: of course i can deny that cause it is not the first shit discussion i read about goa gil, and all i did was to post a video with him and after that to get hours of insultion from a high nosed indian woman who cant accept that she is not the only one in this world, followed by narrow minded indians and the new continent who have not even seen the sadhus i am talking about from inside. this is the most narrow minded discussion i have ever read in my life and it only shows how pity it is that you call yourself psy trancers.
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Yet you're still here wasting your and our time
Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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On 2008-12-01 02:07, Fria Tantrumm wrote:
Not so general.
A monk is any religious ascetic.
Asceticism describes a life-style characterized by abstinence from various sorts of worldly pleasures (especially sexual activity and consumption of alcohol) often with the aim of pursuing religious and spiritual goals.
Hence the reason why alot of us say this Sadhu business is falsely used with regard to Gil.
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You make a good point and technically you are probably right but as i said earlier its not about being a "real" sadhu to me.
Some monks have cellphones and SUVs. Most of the monks ive met come in daily contact with every day people (like me). Nobody challenges them and I do not consider them fake monks. It's not about technicalities for them. It's about how they dedicate their lives to their religion.
Does Gil even refer to himself as a sadhu? Ive talked with him 5 or 6 times and he never mentioned it once.
My point was that he is one of the founders of the Goa scene and also a really nice guy. There is obviously more going on when he plays than just a dj set. That's coming from an agnostic who practically never
"recognizes" anything spiritual or supernatural. I just really thought you guys were missing the point of what he is trying to do.
"to colin: of course i can deny that cause it is not the first shit discussion i read about goa gil, and all i did was to post a video with him and after that to get hours of insultion from a high nosed indian woman who cant accept that she is not the only one in this world, followed by narrow minded indians and the new continent who have not even seen the sadhus i am talking about from inside. this is the most narrow minded discussion i have ever read in my life and it only shows how pity it is that you call yourself psy trancers."
LOL way to tell it how you see it. Fuck the haters. You got my support Moki.
and to Trippy Tripperson. I'm really sorry I put you on ignore and stopped giving you shitty unreleased tracks 3 years ago. I found you extremely annoying and could no longer deal with your nagging.
Hopefully Gil wont call me and talk shit to me for making him look so awful.
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There is no disrespect intended in this discussion. It's not a question of being "high nosed"...it's a question of letting people know "HOW IT IS"...for years now this scene has used the Indian religion as a mascot, and as someone who grew up in the country and follows this religion, it's very bothersome to see it commercialized, misinterpreted and twisted. Yes, each to his own, but in the process, you guys, who do not have any history with the country or the religion just went on to insult it and then call us "narrow minded" and "high nosed", cause we took offense to the misconception...EXCUSE ME
It's you'll who come across as narrow minded for not understanding the true essence of it, even when pointed out by others.
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hey jowy , nobody hates gil here , were just talking about the trivializing of what is a sacred thing to many.. by deluded people like moki .. and all the hate u talk about as far as i can see is only coming from moki .. she`s stuck up , got her facts all mixed in a vat of acid and has no respect for anyone who has a different opinion than her , a very troubled soul .. poor thing
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Posted : Dec 15, 2008 06:46
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Moki just needs to realise it is a music scene, not a friggin' religious sect. 
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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ok so my lazy ass decided to actually do a little research since this has become such a big fuss. I didnt think I was actually going to have to look anything but because my point was simply that I think there is more to it than Gil being a fake sadhu.
This is apparently very true because none of you actually went out of your way to look for anything that would imply he IS a real sadhu.
Well I did.
First I started on wikipedia and found this
"Feeling that the San Francisco musical scene was falling apart, he took off in 1969, going first to Amsterdam and then to India, settling in the hippie mecca of Goa. Here he discovered the sadhus, wandering holy men living off the forest and covering themselves with ash and drinking the elixir of the gods. Gil became himself a Sadhu, Baba Mangalanand, in the order of the Juna Akhara, under the Guru, Mahant Nirmalanand Saraswati Ji Maharaj."
The next obvious step was to search "Juna Akhara" in google and what do you know I immediately find a page on foreign sadhus and guess whos face popped up? "Mangalanand Giri, an initiate of the Juna Akhara, at the Kumbha Mela in 2001 at Allahabad.
A.k.a. Goagil."
http://www.adolphus.nl/sadhus/falang.html
So ya you're the narrowminded ones byaaaaa!!!
haha jk but seriously no more of this fake baba stuff. he is one of the founders of the scene and is probably the only reason why we are here arguing anyways. He has my respect for that alone.
Also this was a good read too if you're interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Gil
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mk47
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On 2008-12-15 07:32, jowy333 wrote:
ok so my lazy ass decided to actually do a little research since this has become such a big fuss. I didnt think I was actually going to have to look anything but because my point was simply that I think there is more to it than Gil being a fake sadhu.
This is apparently very true because none of you actually went out of your way to look for anything that would imply he IS a real sadhu.
Well I did.
First I started on wikipedia and found this
"Feeling that the San Francisco musical scene was falling apart, he took off in 1969, going first to Amsterdam and then to India, settling in the hippie mecca of Goa. Here he discovered the sadhus, wandering holy men living off the forest and covering themselves with ash and drinking the elixir of the gods. Gil became himself a Sadhu, Baba Mangalanand, in the order of the Juna Akhara, under the Guru, Mahant Nirmalanand Saraswati Ji Maharaj."
The next obvious step was to search "Juna Akhara" in google and what do you know I immediately find a page on foreign sadhus and guess whos face popped up? "Mangalanand Giri, an initiate of the Juna Akhara, at the Kumbha Mela in 2001 at Allahabad.
A.k.a. Goagil."
http://www.adolphus.nl/sadhus/falang.html
So ya you're the narrowminded ones byaaaaa!!!
haha jk but seriously no more of this fake baba stuff. he is one of the founders of the scene and is probably the only reason why we are here arguing anyways. He has my respect for that alone.
Also this was a good read too if you're interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Gil
no hard feelings guys but somebody had to say it
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Your second hand information from Wikipedia may be really interesting to you.
It shows to me you really have no idea what a Sadhu is.
So unless you can really explain the meaning of being a Sadhu, forget about the whole thing.
Gil is by no means a Sadhu, no matter what Wiki or other sources write about it.
He may have been on a Sadhu-trip at some time, gimme a break, Gil and a Sadhu....
no way!
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