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Pustelga
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Posted : Nov 30, 2008 16:21
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On 2008-11-29 22:29, jowy333 wrote:
Who fuckin cares if hes a real sadhu or not he is one of the originators of the scene let him call himself whatever dj name he wants. did anyone here actually take into consideration that theres a certain type of aghori or some crap that do their 24 hour traditions? I saw this one guy on TV that would just roll around in circles till he got where he needed to be. He did it for 24 hours or more and it was some spritual jibber jabber i dont quite remember. Surely starting a goa scene and playing 24 hour psy sets can be as respectable as this. Oh and for you new age hippies this roll around in circles guy was a REAL indian from a REAL tribe or whatever and nobody wrote some naysaying posts about how he couldnt be a real aghori or sadhu or whatever u hippies wanna call it because he travels around the world rolling around in circles. Sure alot of people could play psy for 24 hours straight but are you going to want to? are you going to want to roll around in circles for 24 hours? surely there must be something more to this than saying "look at me im the guy that rolls around in circles for 24 hours straight pay me money".
And the idea that Goa Gil is some insanely profitable name and hes raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars off some sadhu image is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
I cant believe im the one that had to tell you this.
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I know there are Sadhu's who do this roling business. it is a form of penance and sacrifice to endure hardship in the name of whichever Lord they want t o appease. They ain't taking money to roll around for 24 hours. It is not at all an intelligent comparison. No one has a problem with GIl I think, his 24 hour sets, his high fees, or anything else. I think everyone was trying to say, this false image of him being a Sadhu or whatever is a load of steaming hot bull.
I don't think anyone said GIl was raking in mega bucks under this guise..but he does rake in alot more than most aspiring dj's or artists...I don;t care it's because he has skill or talent, he probably has both...it just is in conflict with the Hindu theory of Sadhu. |
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Posted : Nov 30, 2008 21:08
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On 2008-11-06 22:18, Pavel wrote:
Goa Gil topic number 654.
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bwahahahha
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OH REALLY ?
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Posted : Nov 30, 2008 21:53
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On 2008-11-30 13:49, Elad wrote:
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On 2008-11-30 08:51, OH REALLY ? wrote:
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On 2008-11-30 07:26, Elad wrote:
the only thing that really bother me is that if you dont conect to it then you stuck with it 24 hours.. afraid to try.
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freedom is the basic thing for psyched'aliens .
if u dont connect with "IT" then nobody stops you to disconnect from "IT" ( whatever this "IT" means ) .
Turn on Tune in and if you dont like "IT" then drop out.
nobody is forcing you to stay back.and nowadays people are very aware and smart enough to know what they are doing , unless its those candy-pop-lolly ex-tea-see powder maniacs.
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take it easy hehe
"IT" is goa gil set. as spiritual people make out of it , its tracks , and by his top 10's , averege music.
so i think , becuase usualy to go out to a doof is big mission , what if you didnt like the set?? in normal event after 2 hours someone else will come and you will be happy , here if you not like it , then "dissconect" isnt going to my camp to have food or smoke and come back to the dancefloor , but actualy to pack and leave.
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you think only spiritual people go for "IT" ? You must be kidding me man . i dont want to post those bag full of links to prove it to u what kind of freaky n non-freaky people go for his parties . ok ?
and fyi as u have never been to GIL party as yet , as u hv written in this thread ), he doesn't play those 10 or 12 trax only in 24 hours ? . The music and madness is much more refined and full of journey and trance.
and talking about the mission , this man knows much more about the mission journey then any of the freaks out there . as i told u before , these Goa Gil parties are for the people who are in it it for the music , for the journey and for that spiritual experience where the unity of trancedance leads into an uplifting state of mind . Probably that is not the way it happens in israel , but lemme tell you that its not the same way everywhere. m sure there are 20 dj's lined up to play in 12-16 hours over there . but its not the same way .
and fyi there are many people out there and not just gil who play long sets and have a similar kind of motive . A journey and a heavy psychedelic journey . likes of captain Ifan Freakout , Bizught , Zik , Psykovsky and many more , who play long sets and have a similar kinda modus operandi .Its not just Goa Gil , if u know more about music and the uplifting qualities of psychedelic music taking the crowd into another dimension there are many many people who out there thinking on the same lines.
and talking about Gil charging a lot of money , i think it is 100 times better than going for his party rather than book infected sshhroom or gms ( and the likes lately ) for $ 2000-3000 . for what ? to go and lissen to that shit music with xtc kids around who are flipping out of sync creating a fully non-sense environment .
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jowy333
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Posted : Nov 30, 2008 23:12
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On 2008-11-30 16:21, Pustelga wrote:
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On 2008-11-29 22:29, jowy333 wrote:
Who fuckin cares if hes a real sadhu or not he is one of the originators of the scene let him call himself whatever dj name he wants. did anyone here actually take into consideration that theres a certain type of aghori or some crap that do their 24 hour traditions? I saw this one guy on TV that would just roll around in circles till he got where he needed to be. He did it for 24 hours or more and it was some spritual jibber jabber i dont quite remember. Surely starting a goa scene and playing 24 hour psy sets can be as respectable as this. Oh and for you new age hippies this roll around in circles guy was a REAL indian from a REAL tribe or whatever and nobody wrote some naysaying posts about how he couldnt be a real aghori or sadhu or whatever u hippies wanna call it because he travels around the world rolling around in circles. Sure alot of people could play psy for 24 hours straight but are you going to want to? are you going to want to roll around in circles for 24 hours? surely there must be something more to this than saying "look at me im the guy that rolls around in circles for 24 hours straight pay me money".
And the idea that Goa Gil is some insanely profitable name and hes raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars off some sadhu image is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
I cant believe im the one that had to tell you this.
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I know there are Sadhu's who do this roling business. it is a form of penance and sacrifice to endure hardship in the name of whichever Lord they want t o appease. They ain't taking money to roll around for 24 hours. It is not at all an intelligent comparison. No one has a problem with GIl I think, his 24 hour sets, his high fees, or anything else. I think everyone was trying to say, this false image of him being a Sadhu or whatever is a load of steaming hot bull.
I don't think anyone said GIl was raking in mega bucks under this guise..but he does rake in alot more than most aspiring dj's or artists...I don;t care it's because he has skill or talent, he probably has both...it just is in conflict with the Hindu theory of Sadhu.
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http://www.goagil.com/links/sadhus.html
lol i think goa gil understands what a real sadhu is. I think you dont. I dont know how they do it in france but looks like his sadhu friends are wearing enuf shiva gear and face paint to me. sadhu is a very general term. i dont study things like this but even i understand what a sadhu is. I also understand that what Gil does is his form of meditation. you cant really get between that and theres nothing you can say to make that not true. Gil has dedicated his life to meditation and spirituality sorry he wont fly to your house for free and play a 24 hour dj set in your basement.
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On 2008-11-25 18:39, Colin OOOD wrote:
I got called a baba in India by babas, because of my dreads, I can't see how that means anything.
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The term "baba" is very common among trancers here in India. They'll call anyone a baba who smokes ganja and listens to psytrance. Doesn't matter to me.
That baba and Gil baba are very different, you know? 
PS: Dont wear dreadlocks next time you're in India. They wont call you baba... hehehe 
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The term Baba got coined in India. When the British invaded India, Indians referred to them as babu (derived from the term Bengali Babu, in English fearful person). With time the babu became baba and since the Brits stayed in power in India for quite some time over the years became the respectful term Baba we know today .
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 00:52
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On 2008-11-30 23:12, jowy333 wrote:
sadhu is a very general term. i dont study things like this but even i understand what a sadhu is.
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NO the term Sadhu is not General. It's not like saying "Dude" or "Bro". It might be general for you, but there is nothing general about it.
If you haven;t studied things like this then you are actually in no position to make such GENERALIZED statements. Your basis for understanding being the GoaGIl link 
It's like saying "Pope" is a general term. Or "Monk" is a general term.
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 01:41
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monk is a general term. |
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Fria Tantrumm
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Not so general.
A monk is any religious ascetic.
Asceticism describes a life-style characterized by abstinence from various sorts of worldly pleasures (especially sexual activity and consumption of alcohol) often with the aim of pursuing religious and spiritual goals. Christianity and the Indian religions (including yoga) teach that salvation and liberation involve a process of mind-body transformation that is effected through practicing restraint with respect to actions of body, speech and mind. The founders and earliest practitioners of these religions (e.g. Buddhism, Jainism, the Christian desert fathers) lived extremely austere lifestyles refraining from sensual pleasures and the accumulation of material wealth. This is to be understood not as an eschewal of the enjoyment of life but a recognition that spiritual and religious goals are impeded by such indulgence.
Hence the reason why alot of us say this Sadhu business is falsely used with regard to Gil.
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Elad
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OH REALY?
http://www.goagil.com/chart.html - abit more then 10 tracks ah... listened to most of it , and didnt like. thats it. therefor i think the set might be not my taste.
and i was never talking about israel so dont put idea's in my mind. in israel its 2 hours drive anyway from anywhere to anywhere so this is not the issue , but think of someone that fly to big festival overseas.
ps - if you can get me infected mushroom and GMS for 2000$ i book them for 2009 evry weekend, twice. and let me take 'wild' guess that gil alone charge atleast double then that.
anywayz with no personal attacks its my last messege here , was funny and sad , and the truth is that i got nothing against or pro goa gil at all , for me he is charechter in the scene , respected one. i dont know nothing about hindu religion as well. i just know there is obvious diffrence from the rolling man to goa gil.
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OH REALLY ?
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 07:37
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@Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
ur wild gues is wrong , Goa Gil usually charges around $ 1000 ( for 24 -36 hour set ) if u have a good contact that gets u thru to him or $ 1500 max , not more than that.He might even play for a very very less amount and possibily for free as well if he is playing at a friends party.
my bad that i thought the mushroom or gms will come in the $2000-$3000 bracket for 2 hours of no -on full sense
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Yidam
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On 2008-12-01 02:07, Fria Tantrumm wrote:
Asceticism describes a life-style characterized by abstinence from various sorts of worldly pleasures (especially sexual activity and consumption of alcohol)
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I remember reading about beer brewing monks (around the 11th - 12th Century in the Celtic areas of Europe). Infact most beer connoisseurs give them credit for being the first the perfect the brewing of beer with hops. They used to brew tons of wine as well... but that was more ceremonial.
There have also been many monastic schools of thought that have allowed monks to take wives btw. People forget that Buddha was married and had a kid before he went out on his search. Could he have reached enlightenment without the process of giving that up ?
Strictly denying someone of these things right from the start is a very western and middle eastern idea of religion. The eastern school of spiritual thought believes in the 'letting go of yourself' more than the hard and fast 'controlling yourself' from the start.
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 14:05
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On 2008-12-01 07:37, OH REALLY ? wrote:
@Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
ur wild gues is wrong , Goa Gil usually charges around $ 1000 ( for 24 -36 hour set ) if u have a good contact that gets u thru to him or $ 1500 max , not more than that.He might even play for a very very less amount and possibily for free as well if he is playing at a friends party.
my bad that i thought the mushroom or gms will come in the $2000-$3000 bracket for 2 hours of no -on full sense
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1000 euros?
well i would really love to see that is the truth..i have always had doubts about the fee he charges on his dj sets
i have heard from very worthy sources near to persons connected to orgs here in Portugal he charged 4x times that value the last times he was here..but once again who is right?
 
it is a subject i would like to see cleared..not 100% of course, cause he his a business man, and he can make some deals with some orgs and negotiate the best offer, and the values maight change, but i would like to see an aproximate amount in which he deals
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 14:18
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JOWY333
http://www.goagil.com/links/sadhus.html
lol i think goa gil understands what a real sadhu is. I think you dont. I dont know how they do it in france but looks like his sadhu friends are wearing enuf shiva gear and face paint to me. sadhu is a very general term. i dont study things like this but even i understand what a sadhu is. I also understand that what Gil does is his form of meditation. you cant really get between that and theres nothing you can say to make that not true. Gil has dedicated his life to meditation and spirituality sorry he wont fly to your house for free and play a 24 hour dj set in your basement.
this isnt very complicated...
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lol dude dont talk about somethin u dont know/understand ur jus makin a fool of urself nd mr gil
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 14:38
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there are people who act and people who speak. there's no surprises here, there'll always be heroes of forums and heroes of scene. endless conflict of opposites.
just sad to watch how some ill-fated people and even producers shows up their idiocy here. think positive while u're starring at the mirror.
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On 2008-12-01 14:05, a3k wrote:
1000 euros?
well i would really love to see that is the truth..i have always had doubts about the fee he charges on his dj sets
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definitely much more than that, i know cos i was part of the team for 2008 Goa Gil gig in Delhi
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