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psytik
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 08:06
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On 2008-11-06 22:18, Pavel wrote:
Goa Gil topic number 654.
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really ?
maybe he share stage with his wife the keep the famalY buissness |
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NIKTHEQUICK
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 12:22
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On 2008-11-07 05:11, Andreh wrote:
i think the right thing to ask ourselves is: "Only Goa Gill can bring us such great moments or its ourselves that make such moment with a good state of mind?"
Its not about a person or a kind of music that does such thing. Its all about us, and if we believe, why put people exactly like us, in a better position? And im not talking about producers or djs only...
I really dont accept that affirmation of "only one person can do such great psychedelic spiritual or whatever u want to say moment and/or feelling". Anybody can do that with good intentions and feelings. Its all about faith.
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hello
gil never said that he is the only one who can create the trance dance experience....(or the rest of the scene are devils..eheh) he is the only one who does it this way....and if you check out his parties...it usually works...he creates that ritual experience..
us listeners also do not believe he is the only one that can do it (or a rockstar or god)....but because we have faith in the trance dance...when we experience his parties there is the feeling that something is there...
the last festivals/parties ive been to never gave me this party feeling....cos:
-the flow in the music and length of sets : cammon 1 artist playing for 1.5 hours..then changing to another style....what is this?? a trance experience...ah ah
- other dancefloors....never believed in this thing....one circle for everyone...fuck diversity!! (chillout as an exeption)
- the music taste of gil....well its been criticized from every angle...but for me it real trance music...especially how he arranges it for 24 hours..
- and the length...one day is not enough for dancing..?? in most of my festivals i had only one night of REAL trance dance!!
these festivals are the ones that thru your state of mind (cos you meet so many people, girls, lots of djs and artists, shops etc) make you say...what a wonderful experience...and they indeed are....fact is THEY ARE NOT TRANCE PARTIES ANYMORE!
don't you live in Brazil...?? there is the exaggeration of commercialism in parties....trance parties but with no soul...
gil tries to bring more spirit and soul in parties.....why complain about that?!
and (quoting you) yes..."anyone can do it with good intentions and feelings".....so go DO IT!!have faith!!
bholenath
ps i didnt ask him but... they prob pay him for working at least 10 times more than the regular dj and for bringing alone more people than a regular dj...so if one regular dj gets payed 100 euros for 2 hour set....he must get payed 1000...?!innit? |
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Zoolog
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 13:08
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On 2008-11-07 05:11, Andreh wrote:
i think the right thing to ask ourselves is: "Only Goa Gill can bring us such great moments or its ourselves that make such moment with a good state of mind?"
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Good states of mind is not bound to an individual...
At one point in the movie Gil says that he is the only one who keeps the ritual clean, the true Goa spirit...
I dont know about that really, but perhaps he IS right... Could perhaps be "read" as an arrogant statement... But its his story, his life, his experience...
I think that he carries more universal and positive messages than selfish negative ones, and i like his open minded approach.
...besides that I agree alot on what NIKTHEQUICK wrote up there, and that the movie gives a good defined answer to this topic 
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Andreh
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 15:22
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Hello brothers. 
Thats a good thing to known that "he never told something like that". The first thing i´ve thought when i read this thread was, "is that true?"
Truth or not, thats a good discussion, coz is not about goa gill.. its about "creating god´s from human people". Thats my point.
I agree in many points with both of you. Thats why i will not disscuss.
And nick, yes, i live in brazil and thats why i have this mind about that. Here as u said, the scence dont has a soul anymore. Few but really few parties has something special.
But still has some good people here that do for it love. Maybe two.. or three persons here in brazil... 
Now only one more thing about goa gill: Try to give the oportunity to a dj(a dj with good ideas, intentions and music experience) to start to pratice the art of 24hours sets... Im really sure we will have another goa gill... maybe even better, u can be sure about that.
All the best brothers!
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:19
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On 2008-11-07 15:22, Andreh wrote:
Now only one more thing about goa gill: Try to give the oportunity to a dj(a dj with good ideas, intentions and music experience) to start to pratice the art of 24hours sets... Im really sure we will have another goa gill... maybe even better, u can be sure about that.
All the best brothers!
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Baba, Opportunity is fine but there should be people also to listen to u. I am sorry but I have never heard of "BASH" or "Mind Tweaker Records". How many people come to listen to u if u play alone???? Organize a party with only ur name. Play for them for 24 hours, where is the problem. There r lotsa people and promoters who wanna listen and work with Gil. He must be doing something right that he is booked throughout the year playing at parties around the globe. And regarding "creating god´s from human people", Gil never said he was god. If people wanna put him on that pedestal thats not his problem.
Love & Light
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Andreh
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:35
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brother... i think u dont get my point. Its hard to be clear using a language that i dont have full control and over the internet.
Of course hes doing something right, its a divine law: "you are what u think and act." I dont have any doubt about goa gill mind and concept.
Its not about play 24 hours sets or people to listen 24hours set, brother... Its about OUR divinity. Anybody haves that, its a matter of studie and improve it.
But you are the third person that say "HE NEVER TOLD SOMETHING LIKE THAT"
so, lets keep our minds in this fact, he never speak that. Thats enought for me, and for u?
buenas brother!
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Andreh
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:38
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:51
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On 2008-11-07 16:38, Andreh wrote:
ah bro... now i saw your edit..
thats sad, u saw any time i putting my music and my skills in this discussion? Please brother, dont mess the thing.
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You should read the message carefully, i never trash talked about ur music or u as an artist. I trust u when u say u r good at what u do.
Peace |
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Andreh
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:54
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 17:05
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On 2008-11-07 16:35, Andreh wrote:
Its not about play 24 hours sets or people to listen 24hours set, brother... Its about OUR divinity. Anybody haves that, its a matter of studie and improve it.
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I completely agree with u. Gil has been following Hinduism for a long time. He was meditating in the Himalayas with the sadhus in early 70's. He is not a fake, he follows what he has learnt spending time in India. He leads his life as a Sadhu, a state he has achieved by studying and learning about it.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 17:28
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On 2008-11-06 07:27:16, psytik wrote:
why goa gil ? mr "papa" dj goa gil dont let any others djs to play just his wife ? did she have same skills than him ?
so why just her ....
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Maybe cause she is his missus?
I don't see nothing wrong with that to be honest. If you don't like the line up of a party, go to another one.
I've been to a couple of parties where goa gil played in the 90's and it was the same story...well his wife didn't play, but it was just him. It was nothing special to be honest, no real spiritual trance ritual for me, simply because I am not into that kind of music.
But I think we should just let the old geezer off for simply doing what he likes to do in his life.
Peace out.
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Andreh
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 18:01
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On 2008-11-07 17:05, GOAPETE wrote:
I completely agree with u. Gil has been following Hinduism for a long time. He was meditating in the Himalayas with the sadhus in early 70's. He is not a fake, he follows what he has learnt spending time in India. He leads his life as a Sadhu, a state he has achieved by studying and learning about it.
peace
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Thats a really really good thing. I wish to have one day such spiritual instruction.
buenas brother!
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 18:43
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On 2008-11-07 17:05, GOAPETE wrote:
I completely agree with u. Gil has been following Hinduism for a long time. He was meditating in the Himalayas with the sadhus in early 70's. He is not a fake, he follows what he has learnt spending time in India. He leads his life as a Sadhu, a state he has achieved by studying and learning about it.
peace
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Thats a really really good thing. I wish to have one day such spiritual instruction.
buenas brother!
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I hope your wishes come true. Wish u all the best.
Peace |
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Braindrop
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 19:07
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On 2008-11-07 17:05, GOAPETE wrote:
He leads his life as a Sadhu, a state he has achieved by studying and learning about it.
peace.
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No offence but, I think u should know what you are writing.
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GOAPETE
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 19:22
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On 2008-11-07 17:05, GOAPETE wrote:
He leads his life as a Sadhu, a state he has achieved by studying and learning about it.
peace.
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No offence but, I think u should know what you are writing.
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Baba, i do know what i am writing. He was learning from his first Guru Ji Mahant Nirmalanand Saraswati Ji Maharaj . Now i don't wanna start up another story here.
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