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Why don't I use a limiter?

PoM
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Posted : Feb 14, 2012 19:20
yes and after 4 pages i m not sure i have mentioned clearly limiters are great to shape transients when used with compressors with slower attack, learned this with the
distressor dist 3 mode that smouth a bit the transient and clip the sound and add 2 and 3 harmonics to get something inspired by tape harmonics coloration.
a limiter smooth transients and give you a little control on it depending the timing used ,it can be just the ticket specially on some digital synth sounds that can sound unmusical sometimes with their transients not smoothed a little, too much machigun like to sound natural. (but a good tape emu could be more suited than a limiter for smoothing transients when suited + it will add nice coloration while the limiter is transparent, the ubk 1 plug is not bad for this too)
PoM
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Posted : Feb 14, 2012 19:33
linear phase eq can smooth the transient too, haven't much experimented with these..too much latency and a pain to use usually but it could be just what a sound need sometimes...

the transient shaping is a big part of what make a mix more analog and musical, plesant to the ears imo , loads of hardware gears smooth transients..the trick is not sacrfice too much the punch on the sound that need it.

not always using the fastest attacks on synth too,but find setting that sound musical in the mix..there not all synth are equal,nord 2 for example can have good sounding attack imo and cut nicely ,sound musical in the mix
Taisto
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 00:23
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On 2012-02-14 19:20, PoM wrote:
.... the ubk 1 plug is not bad for this too)



Yo! Thanks for the tip, ubk1 thing, i will try that 100% now when i know it is exist..

and you are right, combination of compressor and limiter can be solution sometimes when finding nice movement and more warmness to the sound and to the whole music.
aciduss
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 01:21
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On 2012-02-11 18:18, PoM wrote:
btw would love to know what gear logic bomb used for making the album/mastering? if anyone know the equipment they use..

would love to talk production with these guys i really dig the color of their sound, that is unic , it have something that the rest of my trance playlist is lacking,it don't sound as much itb.... probably few piece of quality equipment well used.. but who know, maybe they have insane ears and get you that sound with only plugs ,really good modern trance production to me.



LOGIC BOMB INTERVIEW:

http://www.harderfaster.net/?section=features&action=showfeature&featureid=12348

No words on mastering tho...
Alien Bug
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 03:32
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On 2012-02-14 19:20, PoM wrote:
learned this with the
distressor dist 3 mode that smouth a bit the transient and clip the sound and add 2 and 3 harmonics to get something inspired by tape harmonics coloration.



Here is a free limiter/clipper with 2,3,4 and 5th harmonics onboard
http://www.meldaproduction.com/freevstplugins/mlimiter.php
Its a really good free alt for limiters like l1 etc. works great on hard synths           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
http://soundcloud.com/alien-bug
http://www.facebook.com/ali3nBug
PoM
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 17:28
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On 2012-02-15 01:21, aciduss wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-02-11 18:18, PoM wrote:
btw would love to know what gear logic bomb used for making the album/mastering? if anyone know the equipment they use..

would love to talk production with these guys i really dig the color of their sound, that is unic , it have something that the rest of my trance playlist is lacking,it don't sound as much itb.... probably few piece of quality equipment well used.. but who know, maybe they have insane ears and get you that sound with only plugs ,really good modern trance production to me.



LOGIC BOMB INTERVIEW:

http://www.harderfaster.net/?section=features&action=showfeature&featureid=12348

No words on mastering tho...



thanks mate gonna read this !
PoM
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 17:32
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On 2012-02-15 03:32, Alien Bug wrote:
Here is a free limiter/clipper with 2,3,4 and 5th harmonics onboard
http://www.meldaproduction.com/freevstplugins/mlimiter.php
Its a really good free alt for limiters like l1 etc. works great on hard synths



it remind me the fruity cliper , a comp + this could be really powerfull for shaping and coloring some sounds when suited , have to try it thanks man
PoM
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 17:35
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On 2012-02-15 00:23, Taisto wrote:
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On 2012-02-14 19:20, PoM wrote:
.... the ubk 1 plug is not bad for this too)



Yo! Thanks for the tip, ubk1 thing, i will try that 100% now when i know it is exist..

and you are right, combination of compressor and limiter can be solution sometimes when finding nice movement and more warmness to the sound and to the whole music.



yeah try it it s really a nice compressor , give you lot of control to shape the sound (work great for drums).
the kind of plug that can really improve a mix when used on many tracks with the cumulative effect and used subtely.
the compression timing,ratio and knee are the one used in the ubk fatso if i m right, what i find asweome,wihtout any control on ratio,timing knee , there is always one setting that does the trick (just i wish sometimes the compression to be more smooth,lower ratio.. but dialing more of the dry signal does the trick)
Taisto
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Posted : Feb 15, 2012 20:14
Now when this thread got me exited, i found this by accident, some of you must be tried that already, because it won some charts if i'm right.. But best of all it is freeware..

http://flskins.com/downloads/free-vst-effect-download-ferrictds
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