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orange
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 14:44
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On 2012-02-09 14:11, Suloo wrote:
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On 2012-02-09 02:15:53, golem wrote:
Can you suggest me that in what kind of situations I would need a limiter when doing full-on psy. I really haven't (yet) found any use for it except for master channel (maximising volumes).
Although I do use compressor almost on all sounds. I tried to use it on bassline but I didn't (yet) find it helping in any way.
I just hear some people using limiters in almost every channel, some people (Broken Toy) like having many limiters in a row in bassline, etc..
Aah sorry almost forgot, I did use it for a particular kick because I wanted it louder (but it also got rid of some nature of the kick).
OK yeah I found another application,with snare or kick rolls you might need one.
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problem solved and everything clear?
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well he got way more that he expected thats for sure... 
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 14:57
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when using compression,on some sound try first to use a limiter to catch some peaks here and there (light transparent limiting),i do this all the time on the distressor with soft cliping the highest peaks but it add hamronics that enhance the sound at same time when it s suited, a tape/tube sat might be a better choice to tame few peaks here and there and color the sound a little, most plugin compressor dont really tame peaks like limiter/saturator when used with comon settings ,adding more processors like this open more dynamic shaping option
with a limiter, something that generate harmonics like a tape/tube sim ,a eq (for more control on the compression) and a compressor it open lot of options to shape your sound and mimic hardware.
some plugs are close to doing all this like the ubk1, but i think with soundotys decapitator ,a tape sim (to have more different color and different mouvement/shaping than the soundtoy plug) and a compressor you will never want to bypass a chain like this when well tweaked . |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 15:31
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on the right sound^^
+ little limiting if it help but saturators can be good to smooths peaks when color is needed
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 15:46
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On 2012-02-09 03:14, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
I use compressor on 95% of my sounds , Compressor can be (Kind of) 'Limiter' But the limiter cant be compressor .
Compressor With an right work (Right eq , Right channel vol And the compressor himself) DO the work for sure .
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maybe even share the knowledge how a compressor can act as a limiter..since it can be interesting if you got a compressor with a great colour you might want to use for your limiting..
Turn up the Ratio to full then you got a limiter..the threshold defines on where it limits the audio going thrue..
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 16:00
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orange
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 16:05
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On 2012-02-09 16:00, Wizack Twizack wrote:
I just realized i haven't used a compressor on any of my sounds and bass in my production for like 5-6 years, i just dont feel i need that anymore, at all.
Yeh, offtopic.
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no you should use a compressor at least on 95% of your sounds.. go back and redo it properly!
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 17:56
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On 2012-02-09 16:00, Wizack Twizack wrote:
I just realized i haven't used a compressor on any of my sounds and bass in my production for like 5-6 years, i just dont feel i need that anymore, at all.
Yeh, offtopic.
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dude, seriously? i mean you have top notch sound and mixes! i do not get my head around it to be honest. i can get ok mixes with compression (not overcompressing things as i am very sensitive towards squashed sounds normally) but without compression mixed sound well a bit lame to be honest. the loose connection.. have more depth but do not sound coherent and transparent enough?
you mean you do not use compression at all in your mixing process or just not on individual channels? most of my compression is on group channels actually.
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orange
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 18:11
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 18:15
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Suloo
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 19:39
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On 2012-02-09 18:15, orange wrote:
coherency and transparency is done with proper eq and proper use of creative fx and ofcourse panning!
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+1
one can even get sounds stand out in the mix with tools like sonnox inflator..this rises the rms level without touching the dynamics and adds colouration..
so much stuff out there to use for mixing that i agree: compression is not really needed..i use it very rare as well
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 19:49
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ok, maybe i put it in wrong words.
one can get a nice and clean results with just eq as a tool, agreed.
but my sounds or groups often benefit from soft compression for glue and colour.. i almost never use "clean" compressors but most of the time "coloured" vintage stuff from uad for example..
still cannot believe that the wizack tracks are supposed to be without any compression/limiting.. 
i never acutally worked with a pro in a studio so threads like these always make me think: am i doing something completely wrong here? lol..
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 19:53
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compression is a other tool like eq..both can ruin a mix or make it better, it s all in how you use the tools and the sound you are after.
i m not suprised if wizard twizack dont use any compression and get good sound..personnaly i mixed years wihtout using any compression (then i started to use them on the bass mostly.. then on buss...) and i like i was saying above on the topic, some mix can have almost no dynamoc processing with comp and limit and get really loud and sound great.
it dont mean compression make evertyhing sound bad, it s just when it s not used right.
using compression dont mean much too cause there is so much different use and different compressor..some specially hardware..just runing the signal into them can enhance the sound for example, there is also sidechaining technics..compressing reverbs, delay... all that stuff that can enhance a mix if the mix need it |
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 20:55
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I do compess my track abit when its done, in my mastering process. I put dist on my sounds to get it phatter with eq. I never feel i need to compress it to get it tighter really. All the other gear you put on top on the stuff usually is enough.
@ PeM, its wizack, not wizard.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 22:45
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haha yeah sorry mate for the typo |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 9, 2012 23:17
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about the topic it s a lot about taste too... for tight punchy modern sound , good use of dynamic processing can really help imo . |
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