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Why do you like (or dislike) fast (160bpm+) "nuerotrance"
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DJ Uhm
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 01:03
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Ghreg's set at AUM was was the ish for sure! I was completely sober but felt very different and all I can attribute it to was the energy of those people dancing all around me. Beautiful moment in time 
  Brian - Uhm
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konflux
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 01:03
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I agree with you folks here, if I were to give one good example of an uptempo psytrance artist that doesn't blow, it'd be Furious. Three thumbs up, his stuff is the ape's bollocks.
Don't forget that there's also a light and positive version of 150+bpm psytrance, like some of the aforementioned Suomisaundi stuff. I'm still convinced that if you are looking to be grooving real good physically and spiritually, over 150 stuff doesn't make you move effortlessly.
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FaceHead
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 02:18
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oop i have to correct my earlier statement...the human heart beats at 72 bpm average making it 144 bpm to sync with our heart so whatebver i guess that means our bodies like 288 bpm music too hehe
that is true you have to channel some unusual amounts of stamina to dance through 160 plus sets. Somehow though if you ask for it itll be there.
artists like furious are weird but then why would they choose a sound and stick with it why would they predetermine their own creativity by following a pattern. psychedelic experiences are unpredictable. It would not have benefit if it followed the same formula. the first time i heard furious i was floored...then heard song 2 then 3 then 4 and they all made me wonder why such a talented person is using the same sorta sounds in every song. Comfort seems to be another thing sabotaging our advancement we are all very comfortable at this point with knowing what to expect from an event to the point where if we have no idea what to expect often times we stay at home. IF weve never heard the artists we wont buy their music or even look them up on the internet. Theres something wrong there shouldnt we be excited and passionately searching for some new kinda kick rather than clinging tightly to our beliefs and wrapping ourselves up in those warm fuzzy tested and proven success formulas. To those jaded all you have to do is open yourselves up to new experiences and fresh ideas then you are cured of your jadedisms. Being jaded i think is the feeling of resisting your eveolution. ITs hanging onto what was incredible rather than embracing what is now incredible because its not like the feeling you get in retrospect from thining about the time period when you experienced your peak of enthusiasm in this culture. ITs always so weird to me to hear people analytically dissasembling the party, artists, music, or deco, while they themselves are at that very party. The reason to analyze...im not enjoying it. the reason im not enjoying it...spending time grasping control and figuring out life instead of living it.
maybe ive strayed too far from the topic but i feel like these little things we talk about have a much grander functionality as a viewfinder into some much deeper problem areas. its more improtant to examine how we deal with and process everything we experience on an individual basis rather than examining why you dont like right now. i gotta step outta this one now farewell and much respect to all of you willing to get your hands dirty on this topic
I think we all want the same thing its just not very obvious.
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Trancephonic_Kronik
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 02:50
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I come from a death/grindcore backround and I love the really hard fast stuff. Right now my favs are Fractal Cowboys, Bash, Kannibal Holocaust, and dark elf |
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lyricfree
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 02:58
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"the reason to analyze....im not enjoying it"
I disagree,someone saying that a party was great and had killer music is analyzing it, is it not?
everyone has an personal opinion, some like to share with others and wonder why this or why that... people like to get reassurance sometimes - some want to study the psyche of others and find out why they like things that others dont...
whatever people like to do, ponder away- express away- i mean really we are all posting here because we are using this to take our minds away from analyzing ourselves or something else- its nature to analyze- at least for me it is |
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 03:57
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nope. i analyze.
just how i am.
if i'm NOT analyzing, i'm probably NOT having any fun.
or perhaps a bit too much  |
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bastardsamadhi
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 04:13
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I want to hear and analyze the goa gil house and dubstep set section brainliz was talkin bout! sounds like it could be twerky |
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 04:18
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me too!
you know, all the cool kids listen to dubstep these days. Hell, even Random dropped some at equinox this year!
I wonder what kind of tracks gil would do...
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 05:17
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in usual genre renaming and swapping, Gil would play tech itch and call it "redefining" dubstep
just fuckin round, much love to babas of all timbres and speedz
Wake walking through your sleep dream
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konflux
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 05:29
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Haha, true, true.
I used to listen to Technical Itch back in the day... I think it still has the potential to redefine dubstep. : D
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On 2009-01-14 05:17, FattyAcid wrote:
in usual genre renaming and swapping, Gil would play tech itch and call it "redefining" dubstep
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 05:40
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konflux
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 06:19
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Black Cross
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 06:24
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acplaughs
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 07:46
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Speed has nothing to do with my like/dislike of a certain artist or track, its all about the composition, the sonic aesthetics, the dynamics, etc etc. That said recently faster artists in psytrance have provided me with the most interesting (personally) productions. I have heard only a handful of albums the past few years that were slower/melodic trance albums that trully grabbed me. Frankly far too many slower artists wallow in goa and rave cliches providing nothing challenging/stimulating and thus are no longer psychedelic. But this is only in psytrance, plenty of techno/dubstep provides me lower bpm psychedelia.
160 bpm is a little bit fast for my taste, but I have heard tracks that really work at that speed. Its all about artistic ability. |
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jan 14, 2009 11:15
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Israeli Psy at large translates to Glam Rock and also sold their souls like Zeppelin did in Hammer of the Gods. Not to mention making contracts with their Government.
What most Shamans or say Jedi do is a thing called Field Balancing, detecting and eliminating undesirable vibrations with alien like frequencies. Or even viewed as chasing away evil spirits and in most cases the ones who need the most work may be the ones who find it unpleasant in sound, Surrendering is key. Remember, if your not in the spiritual path, please don't take nothing I say as an attack. Higher vibrations also tend to get viewed as dark or get complaints.
Outside of the spiritual path we can speak quantum mechanics however I have a time issue.
I wonder if the connection between the energy levels of Random Quantum Drums and the harmonic properties of Riemann's non-trivial zeros is relevant here. I don't understand all that much about either simply because, I'm Punk Rock. To me it seems to suggest some sort of link between the Harmonic series and quantum behaviour. The Vibrations are not happening in the atoms or molecules, they're happening off in some place that physicists can't agree on. Hidden variable theories may be ruled out. This includes all theories where quantum probabilities are thought to arise as statistical averages of underlying classical processes. It is a fact that classical statistics cannot reproduce quantum statistics. This itself can break "Traditions". Why? We start to talk about Space Time, which gets into dimensional, supergalactic and subatomic levels. So, if you go to a party with your head in the 3rd dimension hence " comfort zone ", How are you going to fully get music that may have frequencies like... say, from the 7th dimension?
Furious could translate to the younger generation as GMS. I liked GMS in the day and found them rather fluffy then but it was some good shit for the times.
We are not beating a " Dead Horse " but actually showing that we are learning how to communicate without so much negativity.
This is one of the most informative topics I've read in years. Thanks Jarryd
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