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Why do record labels miss release dates?
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vector_0
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 08:41
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I really don't understand: record labels set a release date for an album, create lots of hype, and then destroy all the hype & disappoint the fans by pushing back the release date. It makes no sense to me from a marketing perspective, because people stop caring as much after its bumped once...... so I'm guessing its just people at the label's office slacking on their work and not meeting deadlines? but that also doesn't make sense to me...why not just set the release date with plenty of time to spare in case something comes up? Its not ridiculously urgent that some chillout album comes out as quickly as possible....not like, say, having a section of highway repaired quickly.
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 08:45
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it wud be really nice if 'Twisted rec' cud ans. this
 the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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PKS
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 09:26
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Running a label myself (Chill Tribe Records), I know how difficult it is to keep a release date. There are several reasons for this:
-Pressing: It usually takes much longer than you expect... There is always some minor corrections that has to be done to get the artwork format straight... Which always takes time to fix, because several people are involved in the process....
-Distribution: Often unexpected things show up in the last minute, which delay the release date... This could be delay in the post service, some delay in the promo send outs etc... The most difficult thing is to get the records out to all the shops on the same date... Almost impossible...
-Mastering: The artist(s) tell you in the last minute that they are not satisfied with the mastering... Everything has to be done over again, and things take a lot of time...
-Many people involved: For example when you release a compilation, ten different artists is involved, promotion, artwork guy(s), didtribution, mastering guy etc. There is always delay when so many are involved... There are always some slow people...
CHILL TRIBE
CTRCD01 QUALITY RELAXATION
CTRCD02 RELAXED JOURNEYS
CTRCD03 EAR PLEASURE
CTRCD04 WOMBATMUSIC - Shameful Silence
CTRCD05 POLYPLOID - Grow Your Own
CTRCD06 IAN ION - Gringo Locomotion
CTRCD07 SUNKINGS - Before We Die |
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Outolintu
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 11:04
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i've learnt to add a healthy 6-12 months
to the dead lines and release dates record labels set. that "small addition" usually does the trick and keeps my personal time and record label time in synch 
it might be better for the labels though to stick with "tba" for the public as long as they don't have a very reliable release date at their hands ( > tracks, master & cover ready, cd manufacturing in progress). "no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby |
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randulon
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 12:38
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this is my theory: in the past, during the weimar republic and the era of the third reich, hitler used to turn up late to deliver his speeches which had the effect of creating further hysteria and making said speeches seem vastly more momentous because of the manic crowd reaction who in their minds had been imagining this speech and getting excited by the mere idea for some time now.
now i don't want to compare the nazi party to twisted records, or perhaps hitler to ott, or any other label or artist that doesn't meet their deadline, but...i think maybe it helps the labels and artists create a momentum and a buzz about the release because it's so tantalising in the same way that a beer becomes so much more delicious if you have to cross a desert to get to it; even more so if someone dangles it in front of you then hurls it miles into the distance - yet again.
does that make sense? |
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Alienc
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 12:48
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On 2007-11-22 11:04, Outolintu wrote:
i've learnt to add a healthy 6-12 months
to the dead lines and release dates record labels set. that "small addition" usually does the trick and keeps my personal time and record label time in synch
it might be better for the labels though to stick with "tba" for the public as long as they don't have a very reliable release date at their hands ( > tracks, master & cover ready, cd manufacturing in progress).
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this is good advise,nice one |
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Alienc
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 12:50
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On 2007-11-22 12:38, randulon wrote:
this is my theory: in the past, during the weimar republic and the era of the third reich, hitler used to turn up late to deliver his speeches which had the effect of creating further hysteria and making said speeches seem vastly more momentous because of the manic crowd reaction who in their minds had been imagining this speech and getting excited by the mere idea for some time now.
now i don't want to compare the nazi party to twisted records, or perhaps hitler to ott, or any other label or artist that doesn't meet their deadline, but...i think maybe it helps the labels and artists create a momentum and a buzz about the release because it's so tantalising in the same way that a beer becomes so much more delicious if you have to cross a desert to get to it; even more so if someone dangles it in front of you then hurls it miles into the distance - yet again.
does that make sense?
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fuckin hilarious post,cheers, gave me a giggle anyways,also the `desert` comment` is spot on to me as well,even if they do it unintentionally. |
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vector_0
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 18:50
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On 2007-11-22 12:50, Alienc wrote:
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On 2007-11-22 12:38, randulon wrote:
this is my theory: in the past, during the weimar republic and the era of the third reich, hitler used to turn up late to deliver his speeches which had the effect of creating further hysteria and making said speeches seem vastly more momentous because of the manic crowd reaction who in their minds had been imagining this speech and getting excited by the mere idea for some time now.
now i don't want to compare the nazi party to twisted records, or perhaps hitler to ott, or any other label or artist that doesn't meet their deadline, but...i think maybe it helps the labels and artists create a momentum and a buzz about the release because it's so tantalising in the same way that a beer becomes so much more delicious if you have to cross a desert to get to it; even more so if someone dangles it in front of you then hurls it miles into the distance - yet again.
does that make sense?
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fuckin hilarious post,cheers, gave me a giggle anyways,also the `desert` comment` is spot on to me as well,even if they do it unintentionally.
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i lol'd at this too |
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andrew interchill
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 19:38
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many variables - some of which are out of label's control
combined with the balance between ideal release windows and cash flow needs
pks covered it |
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intrees
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 23:07
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yes, but Twisted do it on purpose !
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Quasga
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 23:34
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On 2007-11-22 09:26, PKS wrote:
-Pressing: It usually takes much longer than you expect... There is always some minor corrections that has to be done to get the artwork format straight... Which always takes time to fix, because several people are involved in the process....
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You can always hire me for professional layout purposes (and artwork if necessary) 
I have trusted label and manufacturer references to confirm that I do it right the first time and the printer/manufacturer will love you for it.
Just a thought and a shameless plug.
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Peace,
Quasga
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maux
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 03:25
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labels are evil and they love to play with your "emotions"
artists are lazy bastards
ppl DON'T BUY
food cost money
some artist have the habit to eat sometime (sleep never)
so since our music revenue stopped to pay for food
we have to grow our own...it takes time to grow a carrot man.
labels and artist loose a lot of time here on isratrance having endless arguments (anyway there is no rush...nobody wants to buy it)
wait a sec...a smoke another joint and I find few other good reasons...
peace
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ps. Walt disney is never late on his releases....why is that ?
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maux
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 04:32
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ppl buy more ipods than music
this is why apple is never late
when there will be the so long waited shift to the next level of technology that will allow us to copy ipods and buy music ?
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain will never improve, and that's here." Aldus |
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