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rich
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Posted : May 19, 2010 22:41
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On 2010-05-19 22:32, Login wrote:
are we here to find conflicts?
or to find the things that can bring us together?
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Seems that one always reveals the other.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : May 19, 2010 22:50
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So, which one of them reveals the other?  |
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rich
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Posted : May 20, 2010 00:39
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Meant to convey that they reveal each other. |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : May 20, 2010 03:53
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I suspected that much
That's too bad, though. We could have another heated discussion about which way the influence goes. And then somebody else could calculate the correlation between people's opinions on this matter and their preference for day or night music. The possibilities are limitless. 
And you just had to kill it with your two-way philosophical comment. What do you suppose we do now, ah? Next thing you know people will start discussing music. OMG!  |
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carbonic
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Posted : May 20, 2010 06:06
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IMO it's much better without politics.
We know that a discussion about politics between two opposite sided 'anonmyous' people behind computers commonly yields endless debate, even offensive/disrespecftul talking comes soon enough, which directly violates the fundamental rules of every good forum! Now I agree there are many many people who do a fine debate, but even the most polite/bearable man gets outta control if you touch his line!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 20, 2010 07:31
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rich
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Posted : May 20, 2010 09:04
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Maine Coon you crack me up  |
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : May 20, 2010 11:55
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if we 'push' our mind a little bit more to think of this, we'll realize that politics do not have to bother us much. it's what you want to say that matters. if you care only to insult or just yell about your beliefs only, there is no result.
if we manage not to bother each other with insults, political conversations in a forum like this show that the participants are polite and mature and what rich said is my truth also:
conflicts can solve maybe the problem(if discussed politely) or can show us why we cannot find things that bring us together, it's up to everyone what he gets from this.
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : May 20, 2010 12:08
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mister coon you really don't have to say something all the time. music is discussed in all other topics and the same people that express their view on this matter, diccuss about music in the rest topics..
you seem bothered by politics, why? sooner or later most of us in here (and everywhere) will probably face problems that a trance state of mind won't solve, let's be at least prepared.
peace and respect
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moki
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Posted : May 20, 2010 13:43
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discussing politics on the level of isratrance is like playing chess with a friend ( if the discussion and the standards of politeness and objectivity are on their best possible level). it can help you improve your rhetoric and move your neurons to a nice game of argumenting and winning a debate. but at the end of the day, it will not solve any problems regarding political issues.
political issues can only be solved ( if at all) in a dialogue with much more powerful personalities and political leaders, with much more impertinent and if i am allowed to say, anarchistic means - by going on the streat, by demonstrating and creating publicity in big media, writing blogs and connecting to other activists...and by propagating your ideas to tousands of facebook accounts. everythin else is just some mind training for your neurones but would not change anything. i mean, yes i personally also have a very detailed agenda of how the political system of the world should look like, but unless i could bring it to more powerful personalities, it is useless and it is just an utopie and a kind of a chess game masturbation.
the most political thing i ever saw happening on isratrance was a va that came after the earthquake last year . it was the one and only reason i ever opened a facebook account myself, just to follow what is happening with the va.
we are prepared. sooner or later it will collapse.
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moki
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Posted : May 20, 2010 13:46
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On 2010-05-19 22:32, Login wrote:
are we here to find conflicts?
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Xolvexs
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Posted : May 20, 2010 13:49
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if we are not yet together than we will never be together..the only thing that separates us is our ego which is very comfortable being itself..why change
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moki
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Posted : May 20, 2010 16:13
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why change? in order to survive.
oh, yes , we will be together. but we do need a big crisis to really understand that we need each other. so we will first have the crisis and then we will learn to be together. to survive.
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Hero #1
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Posted : May 20, 2010 18:00
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On 2010-05-20 13:43, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
discussing politics on the level of isratrance is like playing chess with a friend ( if the discussion and the standards of politeness and objectivity are on their best possible level). it can help you improve your rhetoric and move your neurons to a nice game of argumenting and winning a debate. but at the end of the day, it will not solve any problems regarding political issues.
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Hero #1
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Posted : May 20, 2010 18:03
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On 2010-05-03 14:41:09, JohnTaramas wrote:
Does this forum welcomes the freedom of speech and free spirit in general or is it only about freedom of pitch and concern about cd sales?
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Due to your alter ego (gutter's) behaviour, this forum needs moderation.
As someone rightly said , without moderation it will be like driving without knowing rules. Agreed , sometimes you get on the wrong side due to sensitive issues BUT bottomline is this is created for musica.
If you want to discuss politics and want freedom of speech, come to USA and stand outside capitol hill with posters citing your displeasure.
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