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why 148 sounds slow to me?
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 14:00
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is it usual for fullon to come at higher speeds?
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 14:20
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On 2005-06-20 14:00, sy000321 wrote:
is it usual for fullon to come at higher speeds?
joao
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add some more notes in your bassline and add a closed hat on every 16th, that's when things start to sound much faster. with a regular oomph bassline and open hat only it sounds slow, of course.
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High Pulse
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 15:58
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 16:26
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maybe it's the percussion that make this sound faster, you're right... hats, congas and stuff)
the basslines are mostly pretty crowded with 2/3 notes between 2 kicks.
thanks for the tips 
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 17:06
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john_c
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 22:07
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exactly right. Percussion is what gives the beat, its energy. Ears alone will quickly get desensitized to fast bpm's so you need to put intelligent percussion in to keep your ears amused. Along with the advice already mentioned, try to put in offtimed snares into the mix. A good trick is putting a secondary snare exactly 1/16th note Before the main snare. Gives it a great tribal rhythm and tons of nrg. Also varying patterns of closed-hats on some of the inbetween notes of hi hats. |
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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 22:18
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Jun 21, 2005 12:36
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Forget anything everyone has said in this thread.
Lay off dem drugs for a bit and 148 will feel way too fast again.
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 21, 2005 13:34
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On 2005-06-20 22:18, CHP wrote:
check your pitch fader
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lololol
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 21, 2005 13:35
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On 2005-06-21 12:36, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
Lay off dem drugs for a bit and 148 will feel way too fast again.
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not doing drugs recently... maybe it's the veggie stuff i've been eating
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 21, 2005 13:37
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@tsabeat i've been checking those yesterday and it really helps to change the dinamics of the bassline. in the compressor and in the not lenght and stuff like that...
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On 2005-06-20 22:07, john_c wrote:
already mentioned, try to put in offtimed snares into the mix. A good trick is putting a secondary snare exactly 1/16th note Before the main snare. Gives it a great tribal rhythm and tons of nrg. Also varying patterns of closed-hats on some of the inbetween notes of hi hats.
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doing that too... i dont use 16th hh because i can't get them to sound cool... i'll keep tryin...
thanks
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 21, 2005 18:09
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hi there joao
148 ain´t slow but i kinda know what you mean. although is the whole track that makes it fast or slow. i remember for example lobic bomb tracks that have actually high bpm around 147-151 and all of the songs seem slow. i also think drums agressivity makes most of the difference.
hehe i have a friend that now only produces at 156 bpms, he says it´s the perfect bpm when the kick and baseline fit just perfectly, and hearing his songs , although it is dark trance "fritadeira" noone says that it is 156 bpm, his tracks look like 147/148 |
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sy000321
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Posted : Jun 24, 2005 21:18
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i've been researching this a bit... it really depends on what we're using..
thanks u all
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e-motion
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Posted : Jun 27, 2005 16:12
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percursion is the rhythm of the track... get a nice full on percursion and you won't need more than 145 bpm (which is the "standard"). |
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so add shorter notes on bassline and more full onish time , and on the percursion as well and then u will say , maybe i need to slow down a bit the bpm