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who's your favorite goddess?

ohmy
Fractal Cowboys

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Posted : May 21, 2004 22:53
Seems as if this whole lite vs. dark debate is older than us. . .

Kali makes her 'official' debut in the the story Devi-Mahatmya, where she is said to have sprung out from the brow of Goddess Durga (slayer of demons) during one of the battles between the love and evol. Etymologically Durga's name means "Beyond Reach". She is thus an echo of the woman warrior's fierce virginal autonomy. In this context Kali is considered the 'forceful' form of the great goddess Durga.

Kali is represented as a Black woman with four arms; in one hand she has a sword, in another the head of the demon she has slain, with the other two she is encouraging her worshippers. For earrings she has two dead bodies and wears a necklace of skulls ; her only clothing is a girdle made of dead men's hands, and her tongue protrudes from her mouth. Her eyes are red, and her face and breasts are besmeared with blood. She stands with one foot on the thigh, and another on the breast of her husband.

Kali's fierce appearances have been the subject of extensive descriptions in several earlier and modern works. Though her fierce form is filled with awe- inspiring symbols, their real meaning is not what it first appears- they have equivocal significance:

Kali's nudity has a similar meaning. In many instances she is described as garbed in space or sky clad. In her absolute primordial nakedness she is free from all illusion. She is Nature stripped of 'clothes'. It symbolizes that she is completely beyond name and form, completely beyond the illusory effects of maya (illusion). Her nudity is said to represent totally illumined consciousness, unaffected by maya. Kali is the bright fire of truth, which cannot be hidden by the clothes of ignorance. Such truth simply burns them away.

Kali and her attendants dance to rhythms pounded out by Shiva (Lord of destruction) and his animal-headed attendants who dwell in the Himalayas. Associated with chaos and uncontrollable destruction, Kali's own retinue brandishes swords and holds aloft skull cups from which they drink the blood that intoxicates them. Kali, like Shiva, has a third eye, but in all other respects the two are distinguished from one another. In contrast to Shiva's sweet expression, plump body, and ash white complexion, dark kali's emaciated limbs, angular gestures, and fierce grimace convey a wild intensity. Her loose hair, skull garland, and tiger wrap whip around her body as she stomps and claps to the rhythm of the dance.

Many stories describe Kali's dance with Shiva as one that "threatens to destroy the world" by its savage power. Art historian Stella Kramrisch has noted that the image of kali dancing with Shiva follows closely the myth of the demon Daruka. When Shiva asks his wife Parvati to destroy this demon, she enters Shiva's body and transforms herself from the poison that is stored in his throat. She emerges from Shiva as Kali, ferocious in appearance, and with the help of her flesh eating retinue attacks and defeats the demon. Kali however became so intoxicated by the blood lust of battle that her aroused fury and wild hunger threatened to destroy the whole world. She continued her ferocious rampage until Shiva manifested himself as an infant and lay crying in the midst of the corpse-strewn field. Kali, deceived by Shiva's power of illusion, became calm as she suckled the baby. When evening approached, Shiva performed the dance of creation (tandava) to please the goddess. Delighted with the dance, Kali and her attendants joined in.

Kali's blackness symbolizes her all-embracing, comprehensive nature, because black is the color in which all other colors merge; black absorbs and dissolves them. 'Just as all colors disappear in black, so all names and forms disappear in her' (Mahanirvana Tantra). Or black is said to represent the total absence of color, again signifying the nature of Kali as ultimate reality. This in Sanskrit is named as nirguna (beyond all quality and form). Either way, Kali's black color symbolizes her transcendence of all form.



daya


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Posted : May 22, 2004 01:07
TREE, because it feed us when we get hungry before the civilization teach us how to peel the million grains or rice. DOG, because they are alway serve us with no conditional love, and thay are always cute no matter how old they are. that is why we flip their name from GOD. hehe... am I ruin this topic? But Kali definitely the cool one.           founder http://www.enkienterprise.com
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Posted : May 22, 2004 02:08
Kwan Yin- goddess of compassion

peace ya freaks
shantigirl

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Posted : May 22, 2004 02:24
Uma - a different name for Kali, the godess of warriors and travellers, that could turn into black Kali, but could also become Parvati the goddess of love. Uma - the mountain-goddess. Light and darkness are the sides of the same coin...
GhregOnEarth
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Posted : May 22, 2004 02:42
Snatch your Tongue and your Thread then duck and cover!

What dangerous territory doth we tread, my friend! I mean, how does one commit to such favoritisms without invoking the wrath of all the others (sure we all have heard the stories of such jealous gods, but the jealous goddess)!.......for this reason I would likely have such gumption to choose our Holy All-Mother Eris ("to the prettiest one", I hear some voice in the distance proclaim)....

.....but mind you, I would only make such proclaimations in the quiet solititude of a Reno Casino or a KMart Parking Lot...

sshh!!....I hear Lilith, Amaterasu, & the 10 Mahavidyas Now!

Hail Eris!
All Hail Discordia!
ndrfut


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Posted : May 22, 2004 03:45
Epona...? Gaia? I can't pick a "favorite"...they all have purpose...
Kali is the name my mother gave me...
creator...preserver...destroyer...
Lilith was a bad bitch too...this is a really good topic...you've got me thinking... =)

Peace Love and Happiness...
kali
malice


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Posted : May 22, 2004 10:57
Dana,my girlfriend,Goddess of me...........
IndiAlien
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Posted : May 22, 2004 15:36
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On 2004-05-22 02:24, shantigirl wrote:
Uma - a different name for Kali, the godess of warriors and travellers, that could turn into black Kali, but could also become Parvati the goddess of love. Uma - the mountain-goddess. Light and darkness are the sides of the same coin...



for sure

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ohmy
Fractal Cowboys

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Posted : May 22, 2004 20:07
hmmm, since goddesses cross over all religions really, it isn't really a talk about specific religion, but the goddess itself, and how she can turn a dancefloor psychedelically diabolical.
rich
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Posted : May 23, 2004 00:07
The one godess who has touched me the deepest has been Gusti Kanjeng Ratu Kidul.
Growing up in Indonesia, our frequent visits to the ocean were always accompanied by stories of the Godess of the South Seas. What was instilled wasn't so much fear, as the tales were often of Her wrath, but rather, respect. (my adolescent mind even had romantic fantasies )
To this day, whenever I enter the ocean I do so with gratitude and reverence. The ocean has been my refuge, my depuration and my source of joy since I was a kid. My experiences on the dance floor are never without its influence.
maddan


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Posted : May 24, 2004 04:03
My favorite god is Dionisys - to please him greeks got intoxicated, undressed and danced under the stars for nights without stopping. that's my type of fun!

I know he is a god, not a goddess, but as GhregOnEarth said, i am not so bold as to pick a goddess and offend all her sisters. Who knows which Troy might get destroyed this time!
BrettFromTibet
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Posted : May 24, 2004 22:50
my favorite goddesses are:

JR "Bob" Dobbs - Owner of the Church of the Subgenius. He's the 'goddess' of action, thrills and success at sex and busineses!

Nuit - the egyptian goddess of the night sky, infinite expansion, love

Parvati - the himalayan goddess who first harvested cannabis, and brought it to lord Shiva to smoke and enjoy and make fantastic love with

This Japanese Girl - that i see with a buddah smile
and sunlight eyes, bouncing in front of the speakers in the morning time....
Surrender
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Posted : May 25, 2004 06:03
sorry guys this must be closed.
for refrence see:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/34379/forum/18/start/60
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