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Who is Simon Prickhead?

Acidhive
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 03:58
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 00:28, sherlockalien wrote:
I still do think, though, that in general, people who listen a lot to chill will see that shpongle is nothing special.. while people who love shpongle are mostly part-time chill people, hallucinogen lovers..




That is just so true. I listen to ambient all the time and Shpongle is just 'ok' in my book, and nothing special really. (Especially not the last two albums).           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
floatyhippyflower


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Posts :  538
Posted : Apr 9, 2006 04:03
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 00:28, sherlockalien wrote:
you got some points, but since im mostly the only one being the ´contra´ in this thread, I guess some of your criticisms were directed at me..


Not at all. I think you too raise some interesting points, particularly the following;

Quote:
what I very much DONT like is the fact that he is seen as a god, as the master, as the best ever.. far from that.. I think as soon as people think like that, they lose the ability to discriminate.. there is something in psychology called ´perceptive filtering´, which basically means when you are fully in a belief-system, you adjust all stimulus you receive to fit those views you have.. and I think that, just like most (all?) artists, he makes bad things too, he can make mediocre music... he is not god.. so it kinda bugs me, when people are too blind...

...this projection of their own ideals, of their ´hopes´, into this guy, which in reality is just another flawed human.. and then ppl disguise these projections in a light way as jokes...


I think you hit the nail on the head here. It isn't SP generating all the God malarky. He doesn't strike me as one who yearns for all the attention he gets, or parades himself around as some kind of genius among his adoring follwers and struggling psy artists alike. I do honestly believe that as soon as any musician sees him/herself this way then something of the soul in the music is lost - and I don't see that happening with Posford. For better or worse, he really does just make the music he wants to make. It is we, the fans, who have built him up and placed on his such a pedastal. That has been a happy/unfortunate (depending on your perspective) consequence of the work he has done, but he ain't no hand-signalling, groupie-shagging, image-conscious Skazi figure by a long shot.

I've seen him play twice; once during a live Ott set, where he was scruffy and barefoot and bopping around like a happy teenager with his guitar, and the other being his DJ set at the Shpongle album launch party earlier this year. I finally went for a mug of chai and flapjack after having flung myself around the dancefloor over a four hour period, only to find him sat near the cafe with a bunch of pals smoking bifters and having a laugh just like everybody else. If I hadn't known it was him, I wouldn't have known it was him, if you know what I mean. I may be wrong, but I think it must be quite difficult to keep a firm head on your shoulders when you know so many people admire you, but he still comes across as being just a normal, geeky muso guy that has a way wih the LFO and likes a decent party.

I personally think he is the best psy producer - certainly the most influential, for those who think 'best' is too subjective a term - in that he continues to release interesting music to a high technical standard, is consistant yet never seems to be stuck in a creative rut, he seems open to trying new things (his numerous collaborations and varied output being good examples of this) but as I said before he has a particular way with sound that is both special to him and recognisable to him. However this is my opinion, not his, hence the reason my nose crinkles everytime I read someone taking the piss out of his fame. I mean, who's fucking fault is that? It's ours!

Quote:
except for skazi being bad, cause we all know thats an objective fact


Indeed we do. He gives a whole new meaning to the word KILLARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! (As in, if you look it up in a psy-dictionary, it now reads "death to the ears by way of testosterone-fuelled, ego-wankery that some very misguided teenagers would describe as music.")
robomarket
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  970
Posted : Apr 9, 2006 06:04
Jesus wouldn't have became "the son of God" if people didn't uberglorify him. That's what happens when you're deliberately trying to create an idol out of an ordinary person who is simply doing his thing.

If you like SP? fine...i like his work too.

Psytones, call SP to get his measures for a statue. When you get it made plant it in your home or carry it with you to parties.




          the sky was pink
furthur
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 06:40
i really think it is a shame people put him on this pedestal and by doing this take away from his music (imo)           Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.

www.ganesha.ca
----Dawn----
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 06:48
On the 6th day Posford created a rather amusing vocal sample.

And on the 7th day he rested... watched Antiques Roadshow... and then washed his hair.


- 9:4:6 Gospel of Simon.
          Am i the only one who believes in solipsism?
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 9, 2006 15:28
Quote:

On 2006-04-08 22:06, floatyhippyflower wrote:

Personally I don't really understand why he gets such a bashing





He is not getting a bashing, most ppl can indeed see he is a talented person, including most that critisized him in this thread if you read carefully.

What we don´t understand is why he is addressed like a god by some people (specially in UK if you make ANY kind of criticism about his music you may be risking to be a lonelly person with no more friends heheheh)

And this I think is too much...(and many other ppl here think the same way aparentelly, I though I was alone on this some time ago heheh)

There are PLENTY of very talented ppl producing great music, for me he is just one more of them, simple as that...all this people are normal human beings like you and me...And as some ppl said here I´m pretty sure they would like most to be seen as such (apart from the EGO addicts who also exist in our scene...but thats not what our scene is about)

boomz
yossi
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Posts :  1641
Posted : Apr 9, 2006 16:33
just another guy who makes music... whats the big deal?           if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
pH_
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  12
Posts :  154
Posted : Apr 9, 2006 22:03
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 04:03, floatyhippyflower wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 00:28, sherlockalien wrote:
you got some points, but since im mostly the only one being the ´contra´ in this thread, I guess some of your criticisms were directed at me..


Not at all. I think you too raise some interesting points, particularly the following;

Quote:
what I very much DONT like is the fact that he is seen as a god, as the master, as the best ever.. far from that.. I think as soon as people think like that, they lose the ability to discriminate.. there is something in psychology called ´perceptive filtering´, which basically means when you are fully in a belief-system, you adjust all stimulus you receive to fit those views you have.. and I think that, just like most (all?) artists, he makes bad things too, he can make mediocre music... he is not god.. so it kinda bugs me, when people are too blind...

...this projection of their own ideals, of their ´hopes´, into this guy, which in reality is just another flawed human.. and then ppl disguise these projections in a light way as jokes...


I think you hit the nail on the head here. It isn't SP generating all the God malarky. He doesn't strike me as one who yearns for all the attention he gets, or parades himself around as some kind of genius among his adoring follwers and struggling psy artists alike. I do honestly believe that as soon as any musician sees him/herself this way then something of the soul in the music is lost - and I don't see that happening with Posford. For better or worse, he really does just make the music he wants to make. It is we, the fans, who have built him up and placed on his such a pedastal. That has been a happy/unfortunate (depending on your perspective) consequence of the work he has done, but he ain't no hand-signalling, groupie-shagging, image-conscious Skazi figure by a long shot.

I've seen him play twice; once during a live Ott set, where he was scruffy and barefoot and bopping around like a happy teenager with his guitar, and the other being his DJ set at the Shpongle album launch party earlier this year. I finally went for a mug of chai and flapjack after having flung myself around the dancefloor over a four hour period, only to find him sat near the cafe with a bunch of pals smoking bifters and having a laugh just like everybody else. If I hadn't known it was him, I wouldn't have known it was him, if you know what I mean. I may be wrong, but I think it must be quite difficult to keep a firm head on your shoulders when you know so many people admire you, but he still comes across as being just a normal, geeky muso guy that has a way wih the LFO and likes a decent party.

I personally think he is the best psy producer - certainly the most influential, for those who think 'best' is too subjective a term - in that he continues to release interesting music to a high technical standard, is consistant yet never seems to be stuck in a creative rut, he seems open to trying new things (his numerous collaborations and varied output being good examples of this) but as I said before he has a particular way with sound that is both special to him and recognisable to him. However this is my opinion, not his, hence the reason my nose crinkles everytime I read someone taking the piss out of his fame. I mean, who's fucking fault is that? It's ours!

Quote:
except for skazi being bad, cause we all know thats an objective fact


Indeed we do. He gives a whole new meaning to the word KILLARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! (As in, if you look it up in a psy-dictionary, it now reads "death to the ears by way of testosterone-fuelled, ego-wankery that some very misguided teenagers would describe as music.")



very well said
exotic
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 12:44
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 06:04, robomarket wrote:

Psytones, call SP to get his measures for a statue. When you get it made plant it in your home or carry it with you to parties.




http://www.thumpradio.com/artists/artist_interview.cfm?InterviewID=142

i want one of those for a wall hanging !!

any idea where i can pick up those ??           missing plug-in
l337
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 13:46
Quote:

On 2006-04-09 02:54, Voxmulox wrote:
One person is chosen to be "Simon" the others stand in a strait line. The simon then calls out an action for the children to follow. It can be anything like.... touch your toes jump 10 times on 1 foot...... The simon when giving an action can simply state the action by it self..."touch your ears" and whoever does it is out and has to sit down. Or the simon can say "Simon says, touch your ears" and them everyone must follow the instruction. You can vary the actions according to the age group of children you are playing with. The last person who is standing can then be "Simon"!




Simon sez "jump up and down like a mad crazy person"
The Tree Tribe
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Posts :  580
Posted : Apr 10, 2006 19:17
I'm glad this thread turned from one of Simon- bashing to some interesting observations about Simon's fans and his music.... I'll admit, until a few years ago, I too was a "Simon-worshipper" however I realized that there are 1000's of other artists there who make just as (if not more) psychedelic ambient music... True, Shpongle isn't the best chillout, in fact, it probably doesn't come close to the best, but as far as trance goes, personally I still think that no other artist (yet) produces music on the level that Simon does (or did with the Hallucinogen albums).
kArO
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 03:43
He's a nice guy & a better psy producer than me. He was in LA for Halloween and dressed as a king on stage (all of the DJ's were in costume that night). He's got a sense of humor. Not stuck up at all.
Hex Osirus
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 10:18
@ sherlockalien
you cant compare shpongle to chill. shpongle is definately not chill music, it is shpongle music.
its a little too tripped out to be called chill
the best thing about simon is that after all these years his creativity has never at any piont reached a plateu, he just keeps growing and innovating
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  6106
Posted : Apr 11, 2006 12:44
Quote:

On 2006-04-11 10:18, Hex Osirus wrote:
you cant compare shpongle to chill. shpongle is definately not chill music, it is shpongle music.



Exactly
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