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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 00:55
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Renoise is a killer and fun at the same time.What a fun! ..
... how can I install synthies into renoise? Can I use also VST'S on mac? For now I saw a few tutorials,and started a breaking beat played with the new shortcuts note off and such just the basics.I dig now automation and enough to be busy for the next time.Just now a point Id like to use a synth for synthesis own colours but cannot find how to.Maybe someone can help.
..also is it possible to build groups(mono groups also) and having also aux sends channels? I'm really thrilled about this.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 01:26
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phila
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 12:19
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hi TimeTraveller,
yes, of course you can use VSTs on Mac (I'm on Mac too).
You can use your plugins (VSTs or AUs) as you would on another host (Cubase etc.)
You can also do "groups" as well. I don't really know about mono groups.
Check out the renoise manual, you can find a lot of info there: http://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/Main_Page
If you can't find there what you want you can also ask on the forum, they are lot of friendly "renoisers" that will surely help you (hmm.. let say us:))
... What do you mean with "Id like to use a synth for synthesis own colours"? What do you mean with "colours"?
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 12:57
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hi phila
thanks a lot for the detailed help.Yeah I've found out already a lot of things.The only thing I don'T know is how to make/connect groups and indeed if it is possible to have a mono group or if it's possible to change stereo sounds into mono (for instance lots of kiks samples are stereo but mostly I want kicks to be in mono and groups are lighter than heavy plug ins with mono maker function,so a mono group makes often sense to me)
The renoise forum and tutorials are great,I learned there already my first steps.Good advice from you.
With synthesis I meant,I've needed a virtual synthesizer to shape my own sound (colour) but this I have already solved.
Thank you much and have a nice day too 
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phila
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 13:11
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well, here's how you can change stereo files to mono: first select your sample/instrument. Then go to the sample editor (bottom right tab), and there you should see your kick sample. Now you click the "adjust" button (or simply press F11), select "mono", and here you are!
for routing groups (I try to explain but my english suck sorry):
- select one of the tracks you want to group
- go into "track DSPs -> routing" and select the "send device".
- do the same for all the tracks you want to group toghether.
- now select the master track, and insert a new track (CTRL + T): this should be a "little" track; this is a send track.
- ok, now go to the tracks you want to group, and look at the "send device" you inserted. Where you see "receiver" you can now select the send track you have just created.
I don't know about mono groups, I will look at it! |
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phila
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 13:20
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one tip I like very much in renoise (maybe it's stupid tip but I do a lot of nice thing with it):
- load your favourite vst synth and make a nice sound
- write one or more notes, something you like
- apply effects until you are happy
(usually I apply no delay and reverb at this stage)
- now, in the pattern editor, select the note(s) you have, then right-click and select "render selection to sample"
- now your synth part is rendered to wav and is already loaded with your other instruments, ready to be used.
- at this point I usually delete the VST and load the new audio part: now I can slice/reverse/pan/volume/fx it with the renoise pattern commands
(help -> "listen pattern effects command")
... this is something I don't know how to do with ableton,etc..
By the way: if I don't go wrong Renoise do not have pitch shifting right? This is bad... I have to import samples in Ableton, pitch/time stretch, save, and then reimport in renoise..
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 14:03
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TimeTraveller its lof of fun for sure ! glad you like it.(i think the stereo expender have a mono mix maybe you could try using this if there is a other way i have no idea how)
phila do you mean pitch bending? i think i have read something about this, i ll check again if i can find it but not sure it s avalable.
find it , not sure how well it works and if it pitch bend.. you could do it in a sampler like kontakt maybe
http://tools.renoise.com/tools/rubberband-timestretchpitch-shift |
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phila
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 14:31
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Hi PoM, thanks for the information, I'll try it!!
Anyway, I was talking about pitch shifting / time stretching in the style of ableton live's audio clip..
Maybe "elastic audio" is the real name...
For example, suppose I have a nice vocal loop in C but all my track is in C#, and then I want to change the pitch of my loop.. In ableton this is simple, but in renoise I don't know..
Maybe the tool suggested by PoM can do the trick thanks! |
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 14:33
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hi phila i have no idea but it seems a bit complex to install..
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 23:48
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Thanks guys I'm gonna test all thous tricks and ideas out  s
..also the forums are really interesting and big so much to read..good.
I got one more question which goes on mind for a while now.
I realized I can use the sync button which makes wonders on loops.
Now the wiered thing about it is,that after syncing no matter what note/key on keyboard you play you got each time the same sound/note/pitch.
So I could not play some interesting drum rols like kicks each kick a note up or down,since when in sync all is the same note/tone..how to do that what I want?
..hope you know what I mean..
Without the sync on you can play your laptop keyboard you have two octaves I think,but with sync on all the keys are just one note .
I won't bother you with tons of questions this should be one of the lasts haha.
I confess I'm not really a patient person.
..also does anyone of you use midi keyboard with renoise? Is it possible to automate potis? ok I think I should relax or roll atree for now
Greets
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 04:57
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ok I found out all I wanted.There is so many functions nice.You can set each track even with hex to mono or how you want panned and the hex-fx section is deep.
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 05:01
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have no idea man sorry  check this it s lot of fun and maybe can help you to change the pitch http://tutorials.renoise.com/wiki/Pattern_Effect_Commands (lot of great stuff to make tricks on beats or other sounds)
01xx - Pitch slide up (01 is 1/16th semitone, 08 is a half semitone, 10 is one semitone).
02xx - Pitch slide down (01 is 1/16th semitone, 08 is a half semitone, 10 is one semitone).
not sure it can work there is maybe more easy way too. |
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 05:08
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On 2010-11-27 04:57, TimeTraveller wrote:
ok I found out all I wanted.There is so many functions nice.You can set each track even with hex to mono or how you want panned and the hex-fx section is deep.
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how do you make tracks in mono?
juts find this, gonna try next time seems usefull for faster workflow
http://tools.renoise.com/tools/reslide |
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phila
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 13:09
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On 2010-11-27 05:08, PoM wrote:
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On 2010-11-27 04:57, TimeTraveller wrote:
ok I found out all I wanted.There is so many functions nice.You can set each track even with hex to mono or how you want panned and the hex-fx section is deep.
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how do you make tracks in mono?
juts find this, gonna try next time seems usefull for faster workflow
http://tools.renoise.com/tools/reslide
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I don't know if "reslide" will really speed workflow... Well, maybe for a newbie the answer is yes, but, trust me, when you are familiar with the pattern number notation and with the *keyboard shortcuts* then your workflow will be really FAST!
Anyway it's only a matter of personal taste. Someone may prefer the hex numbers and someone may prefer the sliders. No problem , the important thing is to make some music
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I don't know about mono tracks... You can use mono instruments/samples, if this is what you mean...
But I don't really know if you can "create a mono track" or something like this..
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 13:55
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On 2010-11-27 05:08, PoM wrote:
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On 2010-11-27 04:57, TimeTraveller wrote:
ok I found out all I wanted.There is so many functions nice.You can set each track even with hex to mono or how you want panned and the hex-fx section is deep.
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how do you make tracks in mono?
juts find this, gonna try next time seems usefull for faster workflow
http://tools.renoise.com/tools/reslide
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yeah thanks gonna chek it out.I think it's pretty important to go really through the manual etc.I wondered how many things I learned when reading,each side definetly sth new for me.Ok after seeing a few youtube tings you have some learned but the fast moves are gonna nicley explained in the manual 
As for the Pan I dont know where I found it,Ive read about it ,but you can find the info on http://www.renoise.com/download/Renoise%20User%20Manual.pdf side 124 - you see there in this example is a panning column and two dots.Exactly in this place you set your Pan.
As I read somewhere else, 40 is Center (i hope it is really mono,tbh haven't used it so far,but info is already in mind) 80 is hardpanned to right and 00 hardpanned to left.
Apart of this 80 is the highest volume and 00 is no volume but not note off wich is capslock+tab.
Just 3 days of experimenting so far,and actually I have to learn for my first examination but renoise made me addicted.
I saw now soo many ultra different styles of music ,I think you can blow up the whole old concept of makin a psy track with this system.
No other sequencer has such possibilties and livin in our times it is fascinating with the quality.
..also the quality of renoise concerning sampling and aliasing is top ..check it..
http://www.simonv.com/tutorials/quality.php
Id like to take out the stems of my first track and transport it later to pro tools and mix it through a console and outboard effects (not all) but therefore I need a full version (beause the demo doesn't export wav) ..now wonder what price is best.I saw some for 58 some for 49 euros..strange..Its pity they dont sell it in shops(I'd get it a bit cheeper) ,but haven'T seen it anywhere.
greets
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