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Who came up with the term "trance" (no seriously)?
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Inu
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Posted : Sep 19, 2003 23:00
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When exactly did "Trance Music" come into use? In the electronic scene, we had KLF first using the term (What Time Is Love - Pure Trance Mix), then French promoters Trance Body Express... The Overlords had "Moontrance" (1990), then Trilithon's "Trance Dance" (92), and finally the first "trance" compilations (I'm thinking Dragonfly's "Project 2 Trance" here).
But where did it come from? Was there an earlier use of it in the psyrock/electronic scenes? Did the word ever come up in Goa, as a description of the experience? Or was it only in the last decade that people really referred to Goa music as "trance"? Looking for some dance historians here... school me...
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P_Mac
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Posted : Sep 19, 2003 23:21
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nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 20, 2003 19:01
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it's very hard to say when the term trance was first used in electronic music. I guess it has been around since early work of Claus Schultze and other artists of the early electronic music erea.
But one genre do come into my mind when I think about it: World Music !
Early (60'- 70's) relaxing World Music (some electronic) used together with yoga and in theraputic purpose did indeed associate with the term or the result: "a state of trance". |
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sage2012
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 16:16
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i would think that kraftwerk's 'trans-europe express' (1977) probably influenced a lot of latter-day trance artists.. and as was mentioned before, Can shares some of that influence as well..
btw, good observation on the klf's 'what time is love' (pure trance)... that song is a classic.. some people out there consider cosmic baby & paul van dyk's 'visions of shiva' (mfs) to be one of the first 'trance' releases (along with the rest of the stuff that was coming out on frankfurt's harthouse label), but i think that it really depends upon who you ask.. michael
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Jeff
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Posted : Sep 22, 2003 09:36
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Yes, two good points here :
1. Kraftwerk reference : "The 'soul' of the machines has always been a part of our music. Trance always belongs to repetition, and everybody is looking for trance in life... in sex, in the emotional, in pleasure, in anything... so, the machines produce an absolutely perfect trance."
--Ralf Hütter, 1991, quoted in Kraftwerk: Man Machine and Music, Pascal Bussy
2. KLF reference : I personally consider "KLF - WTIS (pure trance)" released in October 1988 to be the very first proto-Psy tune. This track is 7 years ahead of its time.
All the information I could find about "Trance music" (and I mean Trance, not Psy or Goa Trance which have other origins) concern the more "commercial" side of things. So it's not exactly what you asked for, but anyway, here it is : "Trance as a distinct musical genre appeared around 1992 in Europe, with tracks like Dance 2 Trance (this band’s name allegedly being at the origin of the music label) – We Came In Peace, The Age of Love – The Age of Love, or Jam & Spoon – Stella on the one hand for the melodic part, Hardfloor – Acperience and Future Sound of London – Papua New Guinea on the other for the progressive and rougher side.
Actually, in the early 90’s, imported American House mutated to fit the Ecstasy-determined needs of British clubbers, with gay disco influences like diva vocals replaced by spacey dub effects and a mildly cosmic feel, taken from ambient artists like Aphex Twin and Autechre, or from the Detroit Techno and the emerging German Techno sound led by Westbam. The final result of this mutation, after the Progressive House stage, was soon called Trance music."
And btw, my essay on the history of Goa Trance should be online very soon.
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P_Mac
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Posted : Sep 22, 2003 11:08
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Inu
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 00:58
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Thanks guys!
Good point EP. I've seen the word "trance" on world music releases past and present.
And how could I forget Dance 2 Trance?
Incidentally, for proto-Psy listen to Yello's track "Domingo", on their 1985 album Stella. Almost a perfect prototype for the full-on goa released by Juno Reactor (who cite Yello as their biggest influence) ten years later...
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WeIrD@LcHeMy
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 01:10
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where does the term Rock comes from....?
heh..or heavy metal!!!
well maybe trance came up cause of the feeling of hipnosis you may have when listening to it..you know mind travelling....
Btw in greek trance is translated as hipnosis....
who knows for sure
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nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 01:19
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Actually the word trance have been used many years before electronic or for that matter electric music was invented. The word have been used to describe tribe people getting into a "trance" in ceremonial happeningas.... Mostly influenced by the repetetive drumming and sometimes also natural mindexpanding drugs.
That repetetive tribal drumming was also a big catalyst for early trance music in our scene (1990 - 94). Before it was "renamed" Goa (around 94-95). Just listen to the amazing belgian band Psychic Warriors Of Gaia's track "Exit 23".... |
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Jeff
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 13:50
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Jeff
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 20:09
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On 2003-09-23 00:58, Inu wrote:
Incidentally, for proto-Psy listen to Yello's track "Domingo", on their 1985 album Stella.
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hmm, well, lots of Indus bands played an important role in the development of the original Goa sound. Though, Yello - Domingo sounds 100% Rock music to my ear, nothing so special if you ask me. |
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Inu
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 00:39
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Really? It sounds 100% Trance to my ear... modal electronic bassline+four on the floor beat+sweeping pads+acid-synth effects. There is guitar but less than a typical S.U.N. Project anthem, and the ending is pure full-on psy.
Pitched up to +8, it's Juno Reactor. At +10 it enters Cosmosis terrority.
Agreed about the industrial connection though. Other gems:
Throbbing Gristle - Adrenaline (80)
Psychic TV - Eve Ov Destruction (85?)
Portion Control - Under The Skin (83)
Front 242 - Masterhit/Masterblaster (87)
Laser Cowboys - The Final Conflict (86)
Frontline Assembly - Distorted Vision (86)
The Shamen - Phorward (89)
ClockDVA - The Sonology Of Sex 2 (89)
Sunsonic (Ben Watkins) - Innocent Man (90)
A Split Second - Firewalker (86?)
There's also Leather Strip's 1992 album "Solitary Confinement", which uses the exact same "wall of sound" approach as melodic goa...
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Jeff
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 09:31
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Great list Inu ! 
I'll try to have a listen to that !
As for Yello, maybe I listened to a different version, since I couldn't hear the "acid synth effects" you mentioned. Or I need a good ear cleaning ! 
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Inu
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Posted : Sep 28, 2003 02:30
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Another use of the term:
http://www.discogs.com/label/Trance_Records
Note that they released A Split Second, one of the most popular artists in Goa in the 1980's. Also the "Funky Alternatives" comp. with Tackhead, Chakk and Cabaret Voltaire (namechecked here: http://www.goagil.com/goatranceinterview.html ).
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bird got to fly,
man got to sit and wonder why, why, why?
tiger got to sleep,
bird got to land,
man got to tell himself he understand. |
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