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Which professional musicians use Fruity Loops Studio
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 17, 2005 23:37
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Go and check yourself then, in thread i've opened there is alot of usefull information to test alone, outputs versus inputs.
Spindrift, I agree with you it is not a minor error at all. It is basically what makes FL Producer sound so "badly unseperated and wrong equalized" compared to Cubase, Logic or Sonar. That might be a reason that FL Producer wasn't been sold to Cakewalk. |
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thockin
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Posted : Jan 17, 2005 23:50
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Posted : Jan 17, 2005 23:52
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On 2005-01-17 22:03, Spindrift wrote:
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Be honest please, are you by any chance employed by image line?
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Nope.
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Still it would piss me of to be lead to belive that I am using 24 bit files when the software is secrely dithering it all down to 16 bit.
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So start getting pissed. Write to Image Line if you think it's a huge deal. |
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 00:02
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When i load exactly the same VSTi in Cubase SX and FL Producer i get different sounds at all. What can be my mistake? |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 00:33
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I got a license for fl sometime 99 because the workflow seemed appealing and tried to do a couple of tracks with it. But I could not get as good sound as in Logic and gave up on it.
In the end it's easier to change software than trying to change the software.
And I would be more interested in getting Abelton Live or Orion to sound good, but think also that would be a waste of time.
I don't think Abelton converts all 24 bit audio to dithered 16 bit so there seems to be more to getting software sound good and it's not only to manage to sum up some 24 bit audio streams which I guess any audio developer can do easily.
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thockin
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 01:29
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H20: I don't know what you're doing wrong. It should be the same. I haven't tried it, though, and I said that samples should be exact (though the difference is negligible for me - I never see the DC offset you're talking about).
One of these days, I'll get time to finish teh testing I started.. |
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 02:59
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So we will talk again when you will check.
Try 30 samples sequence. |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 18:01
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texas faggot and all the suomi stuff use FL.
Infected is NOT FL lol
Take a minute to listen
Infected is lots Hardware on Creamware soundcards |
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 18:08
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Texas Fagott rocks!!!!
FL rulez!!!
So stop taking shit, best music is made with it , hehehehe
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 23:00
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yeah. lets ask imageline to change the bit stuffs.
before that is done, forget it. fruity is just fine and sounds fine if you can mix/eq/use it. like i.e krumelur can. 
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 18, 2005 23:38
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Thats the most annoying and to be frank ignorant and stupid arguement people have when producers report that they are dissatisfied with the sound coming from a sequencer.
I can tell you that I have handeled more mixers and software than I possible can remember.
I grew up with audio gear from when I was a child and have used the stuff for more than 20 yrs.
I studied sound enginering, worked with selling audio equipment and apart from trance have made rock pop, tv jingles ambient and RnB.
Without being arrogant I think I can say that I do know how to EQ.
And I just don't understand why it should be more you need to know to use a consumer targeted piece of software than a Neve mixing console.
If it is and you are right that I can't get a good sound because I don't know how to use the software....well then thats a big mistake on Image Lines behalf because I really don't know what the appeal for a beginner would be then.
I just feel sorry for newbies trying to get a good sound and having narrowminded people trying to convince them that it's just because they suck at producing that they can't get it together when there actually is real problems with the software they are using.
That attitude is BS and stinks IMO.
Sorry for the rant, but I really can't stand that shit.
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 00:07
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I won't like to be rude but Krumelur is the last of artists you should follow in order to get proper sound, imho. No offence to FL Producer or Krumelur's music tho. |
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 00:21
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On 2005-01-18 23:38, Spindrift wrote:
I just feel sorry for newbies trying to get a good sound and having narrowminded people trying to convince them that it's just because they suck at producing that they can't get it together when there actually is real problems with the software they are using.
That attitude is BS and stinks IMO.
Sorry for the rant, but I really can't stand that shit.
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No offense, but U sound narrow minded and arrogant. U say u r the ultra pro music producer and u say that fruity sucks even if u know that Krumelur, Texas Fagott, Sattle Battle, Nommos and more artist use it and make ultra fat music with it. So u say their music is not good / good quality? And ur sound is better coz u use Logic?
I respect u as artist and i like ur music, and u have good quality, but
1. it is not all to have good quality
2. the artist mentioned before have at least the same quality, maybe better.
Peace
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 06:54
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mandalavandalz - chapora nightlife
texas faggott - Pilluminati Cunt Roll
squaremeat - jungle boogie partyline
squaremeat - astronomical coffee brake
also artist like antiscarp warriors
my own realese and upcomin.. 
so thats i can tell u peaple dig like crazy ...
and all also do live with it... 
btw - no one use orion ever?! what got to say bout this one ?
i think its also very nice one and pattern handle
btw - for me ther is no diffrence between pattern sequancer and some like cubase... it based on loops and automation anyhow...
and about wave handle in fruity.. so use automation of volume pitch filters panning whatever.. its easy as to see the wave and cut it where u want.. if u know count like this :1234123412341234
tip:for better cpu use "smart disable" for plugins
and godamm how come all talk about quality when thats mixing part... mixing is the end of procces.. why no one open thread about why artists dont use c#7-9 chord... its the unimortant side?
if u care so much of quality seperate all channels and go to studio mix them... get some warmth of hardware compressors and eq.. thats what avrege band/artist do.. www.sattelbattle.com
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 19, 2005 09:25
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They still don't understand what FL Producer does, ok then use it.
Just to mention, if anyone one will post here list of Musicians using Cubase, Logic or Digital Performer, i guess your cpu will stop responding because of large text file.
Tsabeat, non of these artists can't really be sound role models, all of them have the most amateur sounding in whole scene. Sounding it is not music, it is second part of production which is important less but not as music. You talk about music and not sound, if you talk about great Texas Faggots or Mandalavandalz sound production then you do quite know what it about. |
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