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Beat Agency
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 19:41
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I also find it very revealing that absolutely no one has responded to your "Plant interface video : "Can plants create music" video in the Technology forum.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 19:41
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On 2011-03-25 18:01, Colin OOOD wrote:
Any forum can become a difficult place to be if you insist on making yourself 'right' and others 'wrong', in the face of evidence to the contrary.
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I have to ask, are you referring this comment to me?
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Jacynth
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Posted: Mar 25, 2011
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On 2011-03-25 18:35, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
disco hooligans, i am not the only one here doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
you do exactly the same. how many times did you tell me in the last few years that you dont see any basis in my arguments and dont wanna listen to what i say and to my topics? |
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Because you keep doing the same thing, post stuff, present it as fact, with no rational foundations and then say something along the lines it was an experiment for me and my cycle of friends that understand me.
You don't understand a really important bit. It is fine to claim something outstanding, provided you use rational thought to connect reality to that outstanding claim. You simply shoot down anyone who does not use irrational thought patterns, as being someone who does not have the same degree of understanding as you.
Maybe you'd feel better if I or the rest of the people what call yo up, reacted differently to the same preposterous claims you make, who knows, who cares. But I am not about to start agreeing with you, just because you don't use any sort of common sense, scientific evidence or rational thought into your arguments. You keep shooting your self in the foot, yet you think people are trolling you.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
why do you still talk eery time i try to reach people from my fractal???? you could be anywhere else? why do i have your attention? why is it so important to you to talk to me further if you could just take care to speak with people that you understand? |
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You ask for attention by posting this stuff here. Honestly, you've posted some nice thread titles, but then you go on like someone who has had too much acid at a party and talks jibberish. I then feel that it is my duty to take the piss outta you and humor some sense outta you. Something that pisses you off and I find most entertaining 
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
you really seem to believe that i have no opportunity to talk with the right people that would be able to understand my words.
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You do have the opportunity, a few psychotherapy sessions would be a good starting point for you. After that some reading about basic psychology and rational thinking. After that you should further read into the field of science you are attracted to.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
yes i have very very high standards with communicating about these issues, i prefer very very very intelligent.... |
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No you don't. You can't even cover the basics of proper communicating your thoughts, and from your posts I am pretty sure its not your lack of communication skills, it is your delusional thought patterns that make you fail.
Every single time.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
luckily i have the chance to choose to whom i speak. |
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And you choose to post on here, where some people, including my self, read and choose to take part into the conversation. If you don't like what I or Christian or Pavel or mk47 or any other of the people that address your subjects, have to say, you should consider more carefully your choices and selection of ground for debate.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
if you believe i would want serious debate from a couple of pathetic losers posting to me pics blond ladies or washed out happies, then you are even more pathetic than i thought.
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You mean more pathetic that constantly posting jibberish in this forum where losers hang out and although you know they will take the piss out of you, if you start the same ol' mumbling you're known for by now, yet you carry on only to complain?
Now that is truly pathetic.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
face it finally, that there are people who understand me. there are not so little in the number...face it, that i actually dont need these conversations here and do it only because i am different than you and i do see a person and a feeling beind every post, and not only a couple of ascii codes.
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I am sure there are like minded people that you can communicate. I've met loads of them in my partying years. Why are you still spending time on here, only to complain later then? Will you ever stay true to your word when you speak? Its not like you haven't insulted people on here, then said you're leaving, never to come back and then you pop up in no time, innit. But it bothers you so much that the people that disagreed with you, still disagree with you because you haven't taught your self anything from the experiences you had with people that do not share your views. You are like a bad 1 bar loop in a DAW that's hung until one holds down the power button.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
one more thing. i am not doing the same thing over and over again. this year it was a different experince to me than the last one. i am fuckin proud that i actually dont give a shit anymore about people who dont understand me, rather than just saying this and feeling something totally different. it was a hard learning process. |
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Like I said, you haven't learned jack.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
but somehow you manage to piss me off because you are just losing me time. |
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Thanks.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
p.s. changed my full name? hey, you do know who is moki dont you? i dont hide, never done it!!!! i just dont wanna mix real name jobs with this bullshit here
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I don't blame you. If I had my username next to the manic depression that is your posts, I would have changed my name as well.
And if you think its the subject of your threads that causes people to react a certain way, and not the way you react, check TranceVisuals' thread on trance culture.
Strange that people debate about it with no funny pics, innit. Do you have any idea why that is?
Peace out.
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Nectarios
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Dennis the menace
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Basilisk
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 21:24
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I try and do my part sometimes the most intelligent action is not to get involved.
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saintcarl
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Posted: Mar 25, 2011
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This post is too long.
My answer is LOL
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On 2011-03-25 19:53, Jacynth wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 18:35, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
disco hooligans, i am not the only one here doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
you do exactly the same. how many times did you tell me in the last few years that you dont see any basis in my arguments and dont wanna listen to what i say and to my topics? |
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Because you keep doing the same thing, post stuff, present it as fact, with no rational foundations and then say something along the lines it was an experiment for me and my cycle of friends that understand me.
You don't understand a really important bit. It is fine to claim something outstanding, provided you use rational thought to connect reality to that outstanding claim. You simply shoot down anyone who does not use irrational thought patterns, as being someone who does not have the same degree of understanding as you.
Maybe you'd feel better if I or the rest of the people what call yo up, reacted differently to the same preposterous claims you make, who knows, who cares. But I am not about to start agreeing with you, just because you don't use any sort of common sense, scientific evidence or rational thought into your arguments. You keep shooting your self in the foot, yet you think people are trolling you.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
why do you still talk eery time i try to reach people from my fractal???? you could be anywhere else? why do i have your attention? why is it so important to you to talk to me further if you could just take care to speak with people that you understand? |
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You ask for attention by posting this stuff here. Honestly, you've posted some nice thread titles, but then you go on like someone who has had too much acid at a party and talks jibberish. I then feel that it is my duty to take the piss outta you and humor some sense outta you. Something that pisses you off and I find most entertaining
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
you really seem to believe that i have no opportunity to talk with the right people that would be able to understand my words.
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You do have the opportunity, a few psychotherapy sessions would be a good starting point for you. After that some reading about basic psychology and rational thinking. After that you should further read into the field of science you are attracted to.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
yes i have very very high standards with communicating about these issues, i prefer very very very intelligent.... |
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No you don't. You can't even cover the basics of proper communicating your thoughts, and from your posts I am pretty sure its not your lack of communication skills, it is your delusional thought patterns that make you fail.
Every single time.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
luckily i have the chance to choose to whom i speak. |
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And you choose to post on here, where some people, including my self, read and choose to take part into the conversation. If you don't like what I or Christian or Pavel or mk47 or any other of the people that address your subjects, have to say, you should consider more carefully your choices and selection of ground for debate.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
if you believe i would want serious debate from a couple of pathetic losers posting to me pics blond ladies or washed out happies, then you are even more pathetic than i thought.
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You mean more pathetic that constantly posting jibberish in this forum where losers hang out and although you know they will take the piss out of you, if you start the same ol' mumbling you're known for by now, yet you carry on only to complain?
Now that is truly pathetic.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
face it finally, that there are people who understand me. there are not so little in the number...face it, that i actually dont need these conversations here and do it only because i am different than you and i do see a person and a feeling beind every post, and not only a couple of ascii codes.
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I am sure there are like minded people that you can communicate. I've met loads of them in my partying years. Why are you still spending time on here, only to complain later then? Will you ever stay true to your word when you speak? Its not like you haven't insulted people on here, then said you're leaving, never to come back and then you pop up in no time, innit. But it bothers you so much that the people that disagreed with you, still disagree with you because you haven't taught your self anything from the experiences you had with people that do not share your views. You are like a bad 1 bar loop in a DAW that's hung until one holds down the power button.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
one more thing. i am not doing the same thing over and over again. this year it was a different experince to me than the last one. i am fuckin proud that i actually dont give a shit anymore about people who dont understand me, rather than just saying this and feeling something totally different. it was a hard learning process. |
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Like I said, you haven't learned jack.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
but somehow you manage to piss me off because you are just losing me time. |
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Thanks.
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On 2011-03-25 17:16, moki wrote:
p.s. changed my full name? hey, you do know who is moki dont you? i dont hide, never done it!!!! i just dont wanna mix real name jobs with this bullshit here
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I don't blame you. If I had my username next to the manic depression that is your posts, I would have changed my name as well.
And if you think its the subject of your threads that causes people to react a certain way, and not the way you react, check TranceVisuals' thread on trance culture.
Strange that people debate about it with no funny pics, innit. Do you have any idea why that is?
Peace out.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:17
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moki
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:33
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| You don't understand a really important bit. It is fine to claim something outstanding, provided you use rational thought to connect reality to that outstanding claim. You simply shoot down anyone who does not use irrational thought patterns, as being someone who does not have the same degree of understanding as you. |
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this is not true. and i would be so fuckin happy if you would see the pattern in my head at least once.
why the hell are you not able to understand the basic thing about me and your "rational thought patterns"???????????? you always say that i dont accept people with another opinion! no i would fuckin love to hear another opinion!!!!! but i totally fail to see a position in what you say!!!!!!!!!! i would love to understand what you actually disagree!!!!! you always say i am wrong ( now leaving behind the rest of the comments, it is not what it is all about!). so i am wrong. my arguments are wrong. this is perfectly fine to me, why cant you the hell get this pattern at least once???? i would love to hear why??? i would love to hear a POSITION.
but i totally FAIL TO SEE YOUR ARGUMENTS AND YOUR OWN POSITION why this is wrong!!!!
and i tell you not to lose my time, not because i dont wanna hear contrary arguments to mine. no, i do want to hear why i am wrong ( well at least i wanted as far as i was mentally involved in the forum yet). but i cant take the given arguments seriously. you have no position that you express. well at least i dont see your position. except for " you are wrong about the resonance because the colour of this forum is blue and the sun is not shining today and my car is not the same colour as a monkey. whatever the shit, you see, i dont see anything rational in these discussions. and i do know quite a few rational people.
so i am more than nerved to take part in them. i cant take them seriously.
like your sentence, prove to me that there is a cosmic octave. do you realize how stupid this is from a scientific perspective? to bei even expressed that way?
no you dont, anyway fuck it. i must have told you at least ten times the same thing. i dont see your position. i dont think you have any. you just repeat you are wrong, you claim rhinos cvan fly. no i do claim more than that.
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moki
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:39
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p.s. the rest i did not read. just flew. but may be you could finally get your neurons working and realize that i am not here because you or christian or pavel or mk or this remy or whatever he is. there are a few more people here to be here for. can you get it a little bit like that? makes sense to you?
there are few people i share years and years of trancing with accounts in isratrance. ever thought about the possiblity that i actually dont wanna chat bullshit with those who try to do it with me above? it is fine to me if you dont understand me.....
i am very very true to my words, dont worry. this is like long relationships. you would probably cut them a few times " on probe" untill you finally cut them forever.
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moki
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:44
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On 2011-03-25 19:41, Beat Agency wrote:
I also find it very revealing that absolutely no one has responded to your "Plant interface video : "Can plants create music" video in the Technology forum.
Food for thoughts
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you are one of the most mind surface men i have ever seen in my life. ever considered the possibility that much more is heapening in the deeper ocean than what you see on the surface????? i have my interactions that i started through doing the video, dont worry about me. actually thanks for not polluting there too.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:47
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You certainly do claim more than that. The problem is that the methods that you use to back it up and explain it are not scientific and not logical. I wager that many of us here are quite interested in stuff like the cosmic octave should it happen to exist. However, the way that you construct and express yourself is not scientific.
It'd be one thing if it was just one person deriding your posts moki, but many, many people who are scientifically minded have expressed doubts as to the validity of your methods and conclusions...and then you just fly off the handle, curse a lot and say things that no one understands.
I see no problem with the question of 'what is the cosmic octave' or 'prove to me that there is a cosmic octave' - seems like a perfectly reasonable question.
If something exists, you should be able to prove that it exists. However, in order to prove something exists scientifically you need to have a fundamental appreciation for what makes a scientific argument legitimate.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Mar 25, 2011 22:53
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On 2011-03-25 22:44, moki wrote:
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On 2011-03-25 19:41, Beat Agency wrote:
I also find it very revealing that absolutely no one has responded to your "Plant interface video : "Can plants create music" video in the Technology forum.
Food for thoughts
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you are one of the most mind surface men i have ever seen in my life. ever considered the possibility that much more is heapening in the deeper ocean than what you see on the surface????? i have my interactions that i started through doing the video, dont worry about me. actually thanks for not polluting there too.
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How can you see me when you haven't met me?
And as I have written many many times to you (thank you for getting it right now). I would never "pollute" your topics when you post them in the appropriate forums
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moki
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Posted : Mar 26, 2011 00:04
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On 2011-03-25 21:24, Basilisk wrote:
I try and do my part sometimes the most intelligent action is not to get involved.
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yeah i am so impressed with your wisdom, how sad you did not follow the intelligent action in the 528 hz thread.
the pattern:
person 1:
a=x
b=x
=> a=b
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i cant even take the three equations seriously because
1. you dont know that a is written like that > A
2. x can be anything
3. further your equation doesnt take into consideration that
3x + sin 5x / cos 15839x - 23 exp x5 is 8 times the radius of Y!
no y - no single equation!
whatever. it is so simple that it cannot be more simple than that. disagreeing with the simplest thing without offering an alternative is like no disagreeing at all.
no position to compare.
anyway. willsanquil
if something exists, i can call it however i want as far as it has no dina4 name and frame yet. thus i cannot prove the existence of a word. any word exists. i can prove a quality of that word or what the word expresses. whatever man. i understood already almost every single meme that was expressed against trance cultural issues on this forum. i still fail to recongnise positions. and poeple who quote others are not my type of fascination. it was never a virtue in the trance scene to follow the trip of others - authorities, old ideas, old frames. |
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Beat Agency
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