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where have all the elders gone?
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 23, 2010 23:54
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If it's too loud, you're too old
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Upavas
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willsanquil
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rich
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 01:49
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If it's too loud you're listening with your left brain! Wrong one! Try the right brain and just feeeel the sound waves mow down your hair cells!
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diskonekt
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 10:14
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On 2010-12-15 19:09, shahar wrote:
I'm here 
Some others as well.
But most of the elders, well, the story goes like that...
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Right said Fred.
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Dogon
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 10:18
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On 2010-12-23 23:37, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and where do they belong?
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each to his/her own.
They are old enough to understand what they deserve in life & they are trying to attain their respective goals in life.
For sure they do not keep trolling on internet 
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 10:57
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On 2010-12-24 01:49, rich wrote:
If it's too loud you're listening with your left brain! Wrong one! Try the right brain and just feeeel the sound waves mow down your hair cells!
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I'll try to be closer to right speaker next time
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the observer
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 12:44
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On 2010-12-23 16:59, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2010-12-15 13:40:29, the observer wrote:
where are all the elders? dont they care?how will the knowledge be passed on? why dont they help? why is it they dont nurture the new? if they dont wake, how are we to grow so rapidly without guidance? do they even watch? do they care about the ones who walk on their footsteps, on their walked paths? why are they so invisible?why dont they help,guide,through wisdon and experience, knowledge? where are the beautyfull witches that charm the being colourfull? where are the old men who stand still in the middle of a sonic blizzard with a blissfull smile? why dont they wake, their time is close, wake wake wake . . .
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How old are you Observer?
If you are over 30, do you remember when you were young and someone came up to you and had a go at passing their knowledge to you?
I listenend, yet diseregarded their views. Yes there was a fair share of long after party conversations, tripping our balls off. Some of it was good, but there was a lot of people that were just talking rubbish, which is understandable, after all, they were tripping their balls off! 
What is there to pass on? If some elder dude, says Goa Gill, Infected Mushroom, Astrix, Skazi is shite, all the youngsters will jump off their knickers and eat him/her, alive.
And age does not make one wise. I've met a lot of elders who thrived on MFG and Nitzhonot. If you ask me it is not a message from God to pass on to the young ones, but other will say youngsters are lost because they don't listen to enough old school trance from the likes of AP, IM, MFG...etc.
Most of the "elders" don't even listen to tracne music anymore, some don't do drugs anymore, defo not acid and can you blame someone who has a baby at home and will not allow him/her self to get in such a vulnerable state, when they have the responsibility of taking care of a family?
What is happening is life in its simplest form. Ask the youngsters that are in love with 160+BPM darkpsy, and they will tell you the music has never been this good.
Who are we to question their motives and passion?
Live and let live, I say.
Peace out.
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how old am i, how many drops i had, how many kids i got, how much this how much that,its just the mind trying to comprehend and nullyfy the truth by its own means, it does no matter. i remember when i was a kid, the elders did care, who has come, they will observe, and maybe influence them to come forward, or to go away, i have seen like 200 examples in 1 season, and they have sent water, girls,fruits,transparent winged beings,old mothers to say a few words, to influence!how to explain this, right now, even if a human being is lying dead next to you in a party, you will keep dancing, no one care! thats the mentality, and i dont see no elders no more,that caring attitude has gone, that is why i ask.and i mean elder in the sense of a being who is aware and awake,mostly due to experience, which comes with time. Now family, kids, job, drug free life, no trance, no parties, shift in perception is common unfolding occurance.everyone goes, does his own thing after a while, thats also a common observation,but i speak to the energies that are omnipresent, for ever, they r the keepers of wisdom and knowledge and they must be summoned. and these dont change, they dont shift , they are forever constantly growing. and this is what i call down, and i know the elders r or should be aware of this, of change that comes, of the rising of the ancients.i cannot explain all this in words, its immpossible to put in words, i cant find words to explin, you can think whatever you want to think, but you can also ponder on what i said earier and you will be able to deny it as untrue. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:09
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On 2010-12-24 12:44, the observer wrote:
how old am i, how many drops i had, how many kids i got, how much this how much that,its just the mind trying to comprehend and nullyfy the truth by its own means, it does no matter.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Family is not a chemical reaction in your brain, in order to comprehend and nu,llyfy the truth. It is real life. Fail to get a grasp of it, and you will fuck up your life, at best, cause if you are also taking care of a family, you might mess up your children's lifes as well.
I am not saying stop having fun, stop enjoying psychedelia, stop rediscovering your self through music...do enjoy it to your heart's content! Just don't do it in such a selfish manner that might take you so far off track, that you won't be able to grasp reality and others besides your self, will pay the price.
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On 2010-12-24 12:44, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
but i speak to the eneries that are omnipresent, for ever, they r the keepers of wisdom and knowledge and they must be summoned by preparing the being as a receptor or antenne.
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And of which everlasting, omnipresent energies are you talking about?
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the observer
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:16
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k, family and kids is absolutly ok, it is a normal process, i never said they r some chemical reaction in the brain.i have always said they r important. but then i say, that u cannot deny the truth even, the truth is u live in a vast expanse called the universe, and its infinitly big, that is your real home, and u must also become concious of what happens there, in that plane, because you r so occupied with ur daily life, you forget about this reality, but you must also probe very conciusly , and they do reveal themselves in a very prominant way. if you r unaware of these energies, then its your lack of curiocity, they r as present as air, or sound waves, clearly there, but not visible.
whatever i have written is in order to make the people who read it , to become concious of something which they were overlooking, i am not here for some debate, if you think whatever i have written is non sense, please discard all that was said, but even if 1 wakes, that is enough. i have to personall reasons to do this, i just do it because of what i see happening around me, and i state that, thats it. |
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:23
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Where did the elder's go you ask?
We buried them under the dancefloor, and dance on their bones every night. 
But really it is like Logan's Run, you hit 30 and start looking for sanctuary.... 
"Do you identify with this symbol?"
www.youtube.com/trancevisuals
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the observer
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:26
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very common occurance, but rare in these times, even at 30 if someone tries to find this santuary, he may be too late, maybe, but it is never too late, the ones who r properly initiated r done so when they were kids, mostly through the kids parents or grandparents themselves.but everything depends on the individual, some beings r very ripe inside, and just need a nidge or growth for them to blossom |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:26
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On 2010-12-24 13:16, the observer wrote:
but then i say, that u cannot deny the truth even, the truth is u live in a vast expanse called the universe, and its infinitly big, that is your real home, and u must also become concious of what happens there...
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I am aware of that, not because of the partying, but because of interest in my sciences classes at school
Psychedelic trance and psychedelic drugs, did amplify that connection.
Because I am aware of how vast the cosmos is (to the extent my extremely limited human brain understands) I can deal with everyday life and its inheret problems. It is when I think about how infinatly small and insignificant, I am, that I realise the problems that trouble my brain, are also infinately insignificant, hence there is no reason I should fill my mind with worry, fear, anger and stress.
It is how I deal with everyday life and manage to enjoy it.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:28
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On 2010-12-24 13:26, the observer wrote:
...the ones who r properly initiated r done so when they were kids....
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Who(m) enlightened Buddha?
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the observer
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:31
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you dont need to drugs or party , or school for that matter, all of them do help no doubt, but none of them r required. that is also a common grasp when you look, and try to fing in this vastness, you will feel insignificant and small and meaningless, but you must understand you r 1 with all of this, 1 as in scienctific approach, or spiritual , which ever, will lead to the same, its all 1, you and them all, it all. and once you realize that , you will become everything, and become infintly, but that only occurs when the self is compltly dissolved
buddha wasnt initiated, he did it himself at 27 and took him 6 years to self awareness to become aware of his inner workings and the outer energies at work. but anyway after a certain age the human mind becomes to rigid that it becomes immposible for it to leave it material attatments, so after a certain age not all people can make progress. |
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