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when you make dark trance fast, its not dark anymore

Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 19:43
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On 2010-03-05 14:34, Shiranui wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViJJf5LbfOI


What a belter this tune is...I cherish the times I was tripping on the dancefloor and this was getting hammered.

          
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Pavel
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:03
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On 2010-03-05 14:52, oggabogga wrote:
Excuse me but wasn't this hyper fast and at times brutal psytrance a direct response to the terrible Pepsi-Full-On epedemic we had some years back? Shouldn't you be thanking them and try to look at the larger picture at hand instead of judging every curve that comes along the evolution of psytrance?

just sayin'




It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:05
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On 2010-03-05 20:03, Pavel wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 14:52, oggabogga wrote:
Excuse me but wasn't this hyper fast and at times brutal psytrance a direct response to the terrible Pepsi-Full-On epedemic we had some years back? Shouldn't you be thanking them and try to look at the larger picture at hand instead of judging every curve that comes along the evolution of psytrance?

just sayin'




It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour



          
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Pt.
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:31
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On 2010-03-05 20:03, Pavel wrote:
It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour



funny man!

bOm sHIVa !! tHis tHrEaD iS iN nEeD oF sOmE jUmPiNg mExIcANs






Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:50
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On 2010-03-05 20:31, psytones wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 20:03, Pavel wrote:
It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour



funny man!

bOm sHIVa !! tHis tHrEaD iS iN nEeD oF sOmE jUmPiNg mExIcANs









looks like the dark trance scene is down with the west coast.
http://www.mixtapebuzz.com/shop/images/l_3299f478bf4aad56848ad8a05c45691c.jpg           
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mentalcandy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:53
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On 2010-03-05 02:37, ocelot wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 02:00, psykomaniac wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 01:52, ocelot wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 01:42, Axis Mundi wrote:
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On 2010-03-04 15:54, ocelot wrote:

ummm no i have bookings. that i have.
if you want to be precise you should know that i complained that i am not on 'any of the large festivals' this coming summer.
i.e. ozora boom fullmoon etc...
perhaps i will get on boom chillout and vuuv. im trying still...
but bookings i have. usually too many for the same weekend and some other weekends sit empty...and usually its the dark parties that dont pay much because theres 10 new killer acts that charge 200 euros or something... are you one of those?




I didn't say you weren't getting bookings. I said you weren't getting the bookings you feel you're entitled to.

Yes, actually 200 euros minimum is what I asked for when I was in Europe last year. The reasons why were: 1.) As I was living in Germany, I had a regular job, teaching English, at a kindergarten and through a private agency, thus I didn't need to rely on bookings for income. 2.) I am a relative unknown, and couldn't justify charging high amounts. 3.) I was more interested in traveling, meeting people, and having good times than making an income from psy-trance.

I'm happy to say that I was successful in all my goals. I had some really great times, visited lots of new places, and met lots of people who have since become good friends. I was definitely blessed and very thankful that I've been able to do what I've done. I couldn't have asked for more, really. As it was, I felt the relative meager amount that I was asking for was quickly giving me a money-minded mentality which I didn't really care for personally. It didn't sit well with the original reason I got into this music in the first place... because I love it. I'd be doing it even if everybody else in the world hated the outcome. Plenty of other artists I met told me I was selling myself short, and plenty of artists whom I met who shared similar frustrations with yours also seemed to share a similar mentality with you regarding the states of their careers.

I'm guessing attitudes like that frustrate the hell out of you, and if so, I'm sorry. However I'm not in competition with you or anybody else for bookings etc. so I don't see any reason to stop doing what I've been doing or change my policies since it has made me happy and very fortunate until now and only seems to be looking brighter for me.

The best advice I can humbly offer if you are not happy with the state of things is: 1.) Don't be motivated by money, status or fame to make music. Then, the music becomes its own reward and it may be easier to recognize that anything else that comes your way is what it is: an added bonus, blessing, and reward for your talent and efforts.

Or,

2.) Stop making music, at least for a while, and try to find something else to do that brings you satisfaction (even if it means you have to find a regular "normal" job -- to quote Colin OOOD, nobody ever stops paying their dues.) Maybe when you come back to it you may see things in a more refreshing way.





now this makes sense to me. i may not wish to be in the same position as you are willing to put yourself in, but i can totally respect what you are saying.

you have music. you know its not well known. you want to give it a shot and get some experiences and so you shall.
go for it. i think its great.

colin ought to know a thing or 2 over the years... i remember his 160bpm experiments in the middle 90's...

and i am speaking publicly in a way that most of my better knowing friends would say is suicidal to my career. idiotic even.
im aware of this. i have to speak my truth and to stand for what i feel is the essence of psychedelic- to challenge the herd mentality and to question authority and status quo and to always push... push push...
if i finally end up dead in a ditch one day from some angry fast-trance fan knifing me in the back, it will have been worth it for the freedom in insist on.
you see- you can hold a gun to my head whatever but i control the muscles in my tongue and my thoughts until my body is dead. no one else owns me. ever. i am free. geniuinely free. i dont give a flying fuck!
or at least- i refuse to allow fear to rule my world...
if i fail at this music and if one day no one really wants to hear my music, then i guess i will go back to tech support and maybe even construction and home repairs. farming.... whatever... the way i see it- i have this life to make something with the talents and gifts i was given as aaron-

at this moment i feel unprecedented support from so many people and i know in my heart what i am representing and all the bullying in the world (and yes its bullying when its 200 attacking one and like 3 defending... uncoordinated by the way. i dont send my friends here with msn links some some people do...im ok to go it alone if need be...) will never ever stop me.

show me your true faces.
i respect your post axis mundi.





ok screww all this....... man ocelot ur a chut.... people trying to prove something are also chuts..............as a matter of fact this entire fucking isratrance is gay, what started as a partie source has gone and become some sort of frkn ego booster.... people trying to prve everything to oneanother...... man, plus ocelot and axis mundi, what do you do the whole day just isra ranting and writing essays....... now im no one to say anything, just noticing all the fryness all around... man plug out your computer and go to the woods...... if not go get a life.........

my dad always told me, think before you talk ,,, 10 times

and one more thing........ somebody once said on ,,, cut the cheese, keep it real, actions speak louder than words......

bOm




your daddy always told you and you never listened.

i am keeping it rather real homeboy rich kid.
i called you a pussy and you called me a chut. pardon my hindi- bol rahe ho hindi me chut in english? pussy eh? same same
but i dont like your evil clown moniker very much... its ok to disagree... you clearly dont like me either. hows that for real dude
maybe one day you will do something on your own without your daddies cash boy...
oh sorry im digressing... your probably the guy who will do me in the dark alley with the knife. i'll look out for evil clowns. thanks

wait! i regret giving you attention. +1 point for you... my bad




ok ocelot baba, thats what u think u r ha, some baba, thinking psychedelic is your life......arre cut the bullshit......and btw who ever told u to presume that i'm some rich homeboy......and fck u for even pointing that out man, seriously man, does shit like this make u happy,or give u the kicks, if it does, then more power to you.... but ok man, neither do i know u, not sayign i wouldn't like to, and dont worry i wont stab u with a knife.... not that evil,,,,,but dude seriously man, stop defending yourself everytime, just coz u made some killa vanilla muzik, doesnt make u daddy.....haha...... seriously man ur getting old and maybe u need to chill now....



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Pavel
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 20:54
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On 2010-03-05 20:31, psytones wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 20:03, Pavel wrote:
It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour



funny man!

bOm sHIVa !! tHis tHrEaD iS iN nEeD oF sOmE jUmPiNg mExIcANs









Is this a trailer for a Mexican zombie film of some sorts?           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 21:02
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On 2010-03-05 20:50, disco hooligans wrote:
looks like the dark trance scene is down with the west coast.
http://www.mixtapebuzz.com/shop/images/l_3299f478bf4aad56848ad8a05c45691c.jpg


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On 2010-03-05 20:54, Pavel wrote:
Is this a trailer for a Mexican zombie film of some sorts?



lol after a quick search on google I found these two links:

http://www.spraygraphic.com/storage2/member_files/7281/picture/600_f5ef96849bb112b364f6510964447a28.gif

http://www.game-monitor.com/zps2_GameServer/8.6.2.49:27015/West_Coast_Zombie_Panic.html

pretty boring stuff I'm afraid.

BoM ShivA
Ascension
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 21:20
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On 2010-03-05 20:03, Pavel wrote:
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On 2010-03-05 14:52, oggabogga wrote:
Excuse me but wasn't this hyper fast and at times brutal psytrance a direct response to the terrible Pepsi-Full-On epedemic we had some years back? Shouldn't you be thanking them and try to look at the larger picture at hand instead of judging every curve that comes along the evolution of psytrance?

just sayin'




It's like catching HIV when you already got a brain tumour




This made me laugh and fart at the same time.
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 22:16
Ocelot
bravo!!





JohnTaramas
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 22:20
here is some killa vanilla psyko clown. vanilla for people who like music, not for abusers searching for disaster
Hero #1
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 22:38
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On 2010-03-05 22:20, JohnTaramas wrote:
here is some killa vanilla psyko clown.



That killa track Sounds like a bad dream to me , full of farty sounds and bad samples.

No surprise he got no bookings at festivale
rich
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 23:16
I am completely in agreement with ocelot.

I would love to hear slower, heavy and dark psychedelic BUT not necessarily tech.
Who does this today?

I am imagining stoner rock style psychedelic trance (no, not with the guitars, but the energy and heaviness).
If only my ADD would let me sit still long enough to produce what I want to hear...
Pt.
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 23:27
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Unbiased comment below:

oCeLoT, I like your farts. Though I think this track abowe, the drama track, it creates some strange feeling in my throught, is that intenional, it really is mind bending and trippy with those phaseshifters or whats going on (i'm no expression expert). It's heavy right down to the solar plexus. Donno if I subjectivly like it aLoT or not but it intriges my objective psyscanner
Ascension
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Posted : Mar 5, 2010 23:28
wait for swamp trance to take over           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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