when you make dark trance fast, its not dark anymore
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 14:47
He's just pissed because he thinks he's not getting the bookings he feels he should be entitled to, and whining on isratrance is somehow going to fix that.
kriz
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 14:53
That must be it... Ocelot you make alot of good stuff, but if you hate dark so much just make something else... Make happy fake smile fullon ??!
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 14:53
so then don't call it dark you twit, call something else I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 14:58
It seems like this song gets posted in every one of these threads so here it is again since no one else has posted it yet!
also
Also: Ocelot, this topic is ironic considering that the main reason I don't usually mix tracks from the one album of yours I have, is because they're too fast for the rest of my music :x
Elad
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 15:16
A-HA
your frustration about not making psytrance your job is quite funny , you try to sell very un-needed product my friend its time to realize that (and yes i like your music but i think the same for ANY psy music its just not commerce that the supply is rare and that the demand is high)
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 15:50
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On 2010-03-04 11:51, Wizack Twizack wrote:
hey ocelot. If i listen to your tunes i hear "dark fast" stuff aswell. And most of your tunes in compilations and albums are included in cds with other artist making the so called dark trance. Why is it that your tunes are in another category and the rest is dark. Sure there are people making tracks with way to much bpm, and call it dark trance, but its easyer to make it sound crazy when u do that, and everybody knows that already. Later on when u get more skills people tent to turn the bpm down abit and concentrate on the harmonics and melodies. Not everybody but many.
Just couse u discovered this "phenomena" now and obviously are sick of it, why does it matter ur posting this stuff acting like this guys who make this type of music are trying to be cool or whatever. Just couse you moved on for slower beats.
Let them do what they do, just like u are doing.
btw ur new stuff are very nice, i heard on soundcloud. psychedelic stuff.
cheers!
well, to be fair- im not saying 'dark trance is bad' in this thread. dark trance is dark trance. im saying this fast thing is not effective. luckily i had the fast thing out of my system before you ever heard of me- way before 2000... so i never went into that territory much... 9 lives had a 150 and a 152 and that was as far as i went- and i cant stand to listen to it now thats for sure. its like a disable insect with only 2 legs...trying to get back on its feet.
i dig this concept of slow and heavy- could be an alternative club sound-- a lot of industrial and such was rather slow ponderous and heavy...
anyway- why am i saying all this stuff against high bpms in psy trance? (and i love high bpm dnb for example)
because im trying to push it the other direction. trying to influence the scene.
push push. push push.check new OCELOT, PROG-A-LOT and more on
http://soundcloud.com/aaronpeacock http://www.facebook.com/pages/ocelot/52481987054
ocelot
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 15:54
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On 2010-03-04 14:47, Axis Mundi wrote:
He's just pissed because he thinks he's not getting the bookings he feels he should be entitled to, and whining on isratrance is somehow going to fix that.
ummm no i have bookings. that i have.
if you want to be precise you should know that i complained that i am not on 'any of the large festivals' this coming summer.
i.e. ozora boom fullmoon etc...
perhaps i will get on boom chillout and vuuv. im trying still...
but bookings i have. usually too many for the same weekend and some other weekends sit empty...and usually its the dark parties that dont pay much because theres 10 new killer acts that charge 200 euros or something... are you one of those?
check new OCELOT, PROG-A-LOT and more on
http://soundcloud.com/aaronpeacock http://www.facebook.com/pages/ocelot/52481987054
ocelot
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:00
your frustration about not making psytrance your job is quite funny , you try to sell very un-needed product my friend its time to realize that (and yes i like your music but i think the same for ANY psy music its just not commerce that the supply is rare and that the demand is high)
and that hole dark = mosquito theory is rubbish , listen to some FAT dark aka Entropy , Hefty output , Pondscum etc.
im shocked at your (i hope not deliberate) misinterpretation of my post
dark trance is dark trance. its good for a night set for example on an open air party.
Elad my friend, im not talking about the heavy slow stuff, which i commend you may note.
im ripping on this trendy fast shit.
come on.
you think im trying to sell an un-needed product? hmmm
you should know better than to say such things. perhaps the people who like my music would disagree with you...
but please- i dont want to stop you if you feel like suddenly stabbing your friend in the back by all means show your true colours.
i'll say it again and in less pc terms
fast psy (dark or fullon or whatever)
is GAY (and i dont mean homosexual. i mean it in the grade-school derogatory sense of the word)
a disco beat (which is what a trance beat is if you think about it) at high bpms is GAY.
ocelot
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:02
hey you guys- you just want to turn this into attack ocelot time?
feel free. its a common isratrance theme
i'll say something controversial, and then some monkeys jump on me, misread what i said, and try to rip me limb from limb
but they are only ripping a voodoo doll because im not really there. im not really the projected image they make of me.
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:04
just be happy with your stuff man...thats all about, push your own boundaries.why are you talking about other people? talk about you, who are you? who ask for your opinion anyway? it seems that you have an identity problem dude... don`t listen to your ego that much =)
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:14
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On 2010-03-04 08:33, Basilisk wrote:
Still waiting for a sub-140 BPM darkpsy movement. There is much power to be had in the tempos below the standard brain hammering. Trimada sorta has the right idea but I'd like to hear something that glows. Two tracks that come to mind:
Kluster - Rhythm Foola
Phatmatix - Deus Ex Machina
Electrypnose experiments with lower tempos a lot and the results are often spectacular. Looking forward to more!
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:17
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On 2010-03-04 16:04, Pandora`s box wrote:
why are you talking about other people? talk about you, who are you? who ask for your opinion anyway?
Yes that right, you aren't allowed an opinion and to voice it anymore.
That's baaaaaaaaaad. www.youtube.com/trancevisuals
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:17
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On 2010-03-04 14:47, Axis Mundi wrote:
He's just pissed because he thinks he's not getting the bookings he feels he should be entitled to, and whining on isratrance is somehow going to fix that.
not all people think the way you do, lil spammer.
TranceVisuals
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Posted : Mar 4, 2010 16:18
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On 2010-03-04 16:17, JohnTaramas wrote:
not all people think the way you do, lil spammer.
Hahahahhaah, as if you could actually know how a single other person apart from yourself thinks. www.youtube.com/trancevisuals
. Not exactly a "movement" yet, but it's growing.
