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Mad Purple State
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The origin of earth is a question, which has baffled man since time immemorial. Modern science, too, has tried to find answer to this question, which quite amazingly corroborates the statements made by our ancient sages in this regard. Scientists having belief in the theory of evolution like Professor Solas, Shimper, Hackel Keith and Doctor Church, after their research came to the conclusion that man has been existing on the earth only for the last 8, 20, 000 years. But, their findings contradicts the theory of evolution itself, which states that it takes a extremely long period of time for any living creature to evolve. This way the time period of man's origin is further decreased to mere few thousand years.
If we look at the history of the world as well as the various calendars related with different ancient civilizations, the above theory is proved wrong. The Christian calendar begins with the birth of Jesus Christ, which is the most modern calendar as Christ was born 2002 years ago. As compared to the Christian calendar the calendar propounded by Moses is more ancient since it began 3540 years ago. Like way Yudhishthir's calendar which began 4132 years ago at the time of his coronation is more ancient. There are other calendars more ancient than the above mentioned calendars like, Kaliyugi samvat which is 5077 years old, Ibranian calendar which is 5989 years old, Egyptian calendar which is 28629 years old and Finishian calendar which is 30,0047 years old. The Iranian civilization believed to be one of the oldest one has a calendar dating as far as 189955 years back. In the same manner Chaldian calendar considered significant for astrological information it contains is 2,15,000,47 years old. The followers of Khatai religion trace their roots to Khata who was born 8,88,40,348 years ago and their calendar is that much ancient. The Chinese calendar, which is related with the first king of China, is believed to be further ancient i.e. 9,60,02,476 years old.
The origin of man, when determined on the basis of Vaivaswat Manu samvatswar, one of the fourteen samvatsars goes back 12,05,33,077 years old. A mantra created by our ancient sages and used during taking a 'Sankalpa' in religious ceremonies, which is still in practice, states that the man has continued to inhabit the earth for the last 1,97,29,40,037 years.
Modern Geologists, working on four hypotheses tried to determine the age of the earth-
On the basis of formation of layers of rock-- They assume that the earth must have been experiencing rainfall since the time of it's creation. The vaporization of ocean's water caused by the Sun and the resultant rainfall must have been the reason behind the creation of rivers. These modern Geologists also presume that the flowing rivers carried layers of soil with them. It was a continuous and long process, which helped the scientists to come to the conclusion that it took 880 years to form one foot thick layer of soil. The thickest rock they have found till date is 5, 14,000 feet thick. So, on the basis of the above theory the age of the earth comes up to 5,42,38,20,000 years. But, geologists discarded this conclusion because of its over dependence on imaginations and little scientific base.
On the basis of the salinity of ocean' water-- This theory is based on the assumption that the salinity of oceans' water has been increasing in a gradual manner by the flowing rivers transporting mineral salts into them since time immemorial. The result was increased level of salinity in the oceans' water with each passing year. Scientists were of the view that the phenomenon of vaporization did not have any effect on the salinity of oceans' water i.e. the quantity of salt in the oceans' water did not reduced and always remained the same. To determine the quantity of salt found in ocean water scientists did experiment by taking one gallon of ocean water as specimen. They then determined the quantity of salt transported by rivers each year into the ocean. Now they divided the total quantity of salt contained in ocean and divided it by the quantity of salt transported by river into it. After calculating they came to the conclusion that the age of the earth was 12,00,00,000 years. But geologists discarded this assumption too.
On the basis of assumed temperature of earth since the time when it came into existence-- A scientist named Lord Calvin with the help of his research made on this subject assumed that the earth's temperature at the time of its creation was 3900 degree centigrade. He then found out the present temperature of the earth's surface and also its average depreciation that was caused each year. After dividing the present temperature of the earth with the average depreciation of temperature they came to the conclusion that the earth's age was 10,00,00,000 years.
Disintegration of radio active materials-- This theory is based on the assumption that there is a continuous process of disintegration going on in radio active materials like Uranium, Thorium and Radium. It is also the most accepted theory for determining the age of earth. These materials continuously radiate radio active rays like alpha, beta and gamma. In course of time they get transformed into lead. Since this transformation is irregular and effected over a very long period of time as well therefore it is not easy to arrive at any definite conclusion. Still, scientists have found a way to determine the 'mid-life' of a radio active element i.e. the period of time within which it is expected to reduce half in its size. Scientists took an ancient rock as a sample and found that it contained 119 grams of uranium in it. A sample of stone taken from its neighborhood contained 309 grams of lead, which had actually come into existence after getting disintegrated from uranium. Scientists also found after their numerous experiments that on average disintegration of 238 gram of uranium made 206 gram of lead. So, after calculation they arrived at the conclusion that 306 gram of lead must have been made from 357 gram of uranium (238 x 309/ 206). Also that the present 119 gram of uranium was actually 357+ 119= 476 gram in its initial form long time ago.
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Mad Purple State
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Scientists have also found that uranium reduces to half in size in 456,00,000,00 years. That implies that it would take the above mentioned period of years for uranium weighing 476 grams to reduce to 238 grams. In the same manner it would take further 456,00,000,00 years for uranium piece weighing 238 grams to reduce to half i.e. 119 grams. Thus scientists on the basis of this theory assumed the age of the earth to be 45,60,00,00,000 + 45,60,00,00,000 = 912,00,000,00 years.
The most ancient rock has been discovered in Canada and after calculating in the above mentioned way scientists have found that the earth was 198,00,000,00 years old. This is the age of the earth as determined by the scientists and the most widely expected.
Now, let us consider what our ancient sages have said in this regard. The shloka given below is chanted before commencing any religious ceremony. It also gives an idea about the origin of earth. The shloka goes as follows--
"OM TATSADADHA BRAHMANO DWITIYA PARARDHE SHRI SHWET VARAH KALPE JAMBUDWEEPE BHARAT KHANDE ARYAVARTEK DESHANTARGAT KUMARIKA NAAM KSHETRE VAIVASWAT MANVANTRE ASHTAVINSHATI TAME KALIYUGE KALI PRATHAM CHARNE..................... ."
This shloka amazingly contains vital information related with earth's origin. In this shloka a word 'Parardh' has come. What is the meaning of this word? There is a shloka in Bhagwatpuran shedding ample light on it--
EVAM VIDDYE RAHAU RATRAIH KAAL GATYOP LAKSHITAIH,
APAKSHITAMI VASYAPI (BRAHMANAH) PARMAPURVAYAH SHATAM.
YADARDHA MAYUSHASTASYA PARARDHAM BHIDHIYATE,
PURVAH PARARDHO UPKRANTO HRIYARODYA PRAVARTATE.
MEANING-- Lord Brahma's age is 100 years. He has already crossed the first parardha (50 years) and entered the second one. The process of creation begins simultaneously with lord Brahma's day. At the end of the day night starts and which is of same duration. One day of Brahma (constituting of day and night) is equal to a KALPA of mortal world. There is a shloka in MANUSMRITI, which gives equation between Brahma's day (Kalpa) and divine years or Chaturyugas. The shloka is as follows--
DEVIKANAM YUGANAM TU SAHASTRAM PARISANKHYAYAA,
BRAHMA MEKAM HAGYEYAM TAVATIM RATRIMEVA CHA.
MEANING-- A day of Brahma (Kalpa) is equal to 1000 divine years or Chaturyugas. The night descends at the end of his day and its duration is same as the day.
A day of Brahma is equivalent to one Kalpa which itself consists of 14 manvantars as mentioned below--
1) Swayambhuv, 2) Swarochis, 3) Uttam, 4) Tamas, 5) Raivat, 6) Chakshush, 7) Vaivaswat, 8) Savarnik, 9) Daksha Savarnik, 10) Brahm Savarnik, 11) Dharma Savarnik, 12) Rudra Savarnik, 13) Rudra Savarnik, 14) Indra Savarnik. Presently the seventh manvantar- Vaivaswat is running and there are seven more manvantars to go.
Now, ONE MANVANTAR = 1000/14 DIVINE YEARS OR CHATURYUGAS= 71.42 CHATURYUGAS
The fractional expression that has come in the above division symbolizes what sages have called SANDHIKAAL- the intermediary period between two manvantars when the world is devoid of any creation. A sandhikaal constitutes of 4800 divine years, which is also the duration of Satyayuga. So, while calculating the age of the earth we can not overlook this aspect. Now, coming to the calculation part--
TOTAL PERIOD OF MANVANTAR = 14 x 71 = 994 CHATURYUGAS
PERIOD OF SANDHIKAAL =4800 x 15 = 72000 DIVINE YEARS = 6 CHATURYUGAS (since one chaturyuga= 1200 divine years)
The duration of each of the four yugas has been clearly described in the Mahabharata (188 / 22-26), which is as follows--" The duration of Satya yuga is 4800 divine years inclusive of 800 divine years of Sandhya and Sandhyansh periods. Treta yuga consists of 3600 divine years inclusive of 600 divine years of Sandhya and Sandhyansh periods. In the same manner Dwapar yuga consists of 2400 divine years inclusive of 400 divine years of Sandhya and Sandhyansh periods, while Kaliyuga consists of 1200 divine years inclusive of 100 divine years of Sandhya and Sandhyansh periods respectively.
Therefore a CHATURYUGA consists of 12000 (4800+ 3600+2400+1200 ) divine years. MANUSMRITI gives an equation between a divine year and the year of our mortal world in just one shloka---
DEVA RATRAHANI VARSH PRAVIBHAGASTYOH PUN,
AHASTA TRODA GAYANAM RATRIH SYAD DAKSHINAYANAM.
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MEANING-- A divine day (including night) is equal to one year of this mortal world. The period during which Sun is north of equinox or uttarayan is the day time of the deities while the period during which Sun is south of equinox or Dakshinayan is their night time. So, after minute calculations our ancient sages arrived at the following conclusions--
Brahma has already completed his 15'th year as well as 6 manvantars and 7 sandhikaal of his first day.
(The earth is supposed to have come into existence on the first day of Brahma)
Till date 27 manvantars alongwith their Sandhikaals have already passed.
The three Yugas namely Satya, Treta and Dwapar of the present Manvantar, which is 28'th in order have already passed.
We are presently in 2059 year according to Vikram Samvat calendar, which implies that we are in fact running in the 5102'nd year of the
Kaliyuga. Now coming back to the final calculation--
6 MANVANTAR = 6 x 71CHATURYUGAS = 6 x 71 x 1200 DIVINE YEARS = 51,12,000 DIVINE YEARS.
THEIR SEVEN SANDHIKAALS = 4800x 7= 33,600 DIVINE YEARS
27 CHATURYUGAS OF THE 7'TH MANVANTAR= 1200x 27 DIVINE YEARS = 324 000 DIVINE YEARS
3 YUGAS HAVE ALREADY PASSED THAT MEANS 4800 + 3600 + 2400 = 10,800 DIVINE YEARS
WHEN ALL THE THREE DATAS GIVEN ABOVE ARE ADDED= 51,12,000 + 33,600 + 3,24,000 + 10,800 DIVINE YEARS = 54,80,600 DIVINE YEARS.
SINCE ONE DIVINE DAY IS EQUAL TO ONE YEAR OF THIS WORLD WHICH ACCORDING TO INDIAN ASTROLOGY CONSISTS OF 360 DAYS THEREFORE WHEN DIVINE YEARS ARE MULTIPLIED WITH IT THEN WE GET 5480600 x 360 = 1,97,29,49,069 YEARS OF THIS WORLD.
WHEN WE ADD 5102 YEARS OF THE KALIYUGA THEN WE GET 1972949069 + 5102= 1,97,29,49,102 YEARS OF THIS WORLD.
NOTE- ACCORDING TO HINDU BELIEF KALIYUGA STARTED 5102 YEARS AGO.
THIS WAY WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE EARTH CAME INTO EXISTENCE 1,97,29,49,102 YEARS AGO WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT SCIENTISTS HAVE DISCOVERED IN THE MODERN AGE THAT IS 198,00,000,00 YEARS.
This amply goes to prove how advance was the science of mathematics in ancient India and also the perfection our ancient sages had in mathematical calculations. They had accurately calculated the age of the earth, which is very near to what science has arrived upon after countless experiments and much floundering. Man living in the present era bitten by the bug of modernism may try to underestimate the findings of our ancient sages but he should keep in mind that they determined the earth's age merely with the help of meditation and mathematical calculations. On the contrary science had to employ all the modern technology at its command to determine the same and even then it is not confident of its findings because the research is still going on and everyday something new is happening in the field of science. What one thing is established as a theory one day turns out to be a hypothesis another day. But, our sages have confidently proclaimed that the earth is 1,97,29,49,102 years old-- not one day more or less. Now, it depends upon you whom you want to believe?
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 21:34
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Really interesting. Thank you for this topic
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Pauldo
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Posted : Dec 7, 2012 10:46
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I'll take modern science over ancient sages any day. |
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Mad Purple State
Your science is false. The "238" in "Uranium 238" is not related to weight in grams. It is related to the atomic mass of an individual isotope (which is nowhere even close to 476 grams or 238 grams in any single isotope.)
Please research a bit on Radioactive Decay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-238
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay
It's important to use clear and proper science if you plan to incorporate that science into your theory if you have any hope of generating a theory which is accurate at all. |
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Posted : Dec 9, 2012 08:43
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we can't be sure, maybe the earth doesN't exist and this is just a dream of something else from someone else  but I like science too that satisfies the thirst for answers through logic anyhow it probably is wrong anyways. There will always be atleast one or two questions unanswered what was before? or what comes thereafter and after some answers the same questions can be set again.
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 13:47
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The only thing after this is answered is " how many times did the universe die to be born again ?" 
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