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What VSTi are pleasant to you?
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 18, 2010 18:37
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limitation is the artists best friend.(debatable with drugs, even if this one could be moore a enemy sometimes) |
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lunarbeats
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Posted : Dec 7, 2010 13:48
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my favorite is:
TAL Bassline
TAL Electro
NI MASSIVE
NI REAKTOR
sometimes i use syleth |
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Dec 19, 2010 17:39
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NI Reaktor 5
Vangeance Metrum
Sylenth1
And People who don;t buy plugins and say they have more important things int heir lives to buy ... thats just a huuge Joke ... those people who create Plugins sit month/years behind their computers to create them ... so i think they should get payed for theyr work ...
I don't say i bought 100% of my Plugins ...but at least the DAW and the most used plugs i bought ...
A Painter also has to buy hes colors and paper to paint ...
what if ur boss would say ... hey i don't pay u this month because i have more important things to pay ???
I allways hear form ppl they will try and if its good they will buy it ... hahahaah ... i guess maybe 5% of all users do that 
I can understand if someone doesen't pay for waveplugs as its soooo expensiv (overpriced imho) ...
but i don't understand if People release tracks sience years made on Cubase/Logic/FL/Ableton or what ever Daw ..and never buy the Daw ...
i guess some plugins are just overpriced ...and i'm sure many ppl would buy it if the prices would be a bit lower ...
But in the end u also would pay for a Guitar, Piano or Drumms if u want to play them ...
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willsanquil
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Posted : Dec 20, 2010 20:28
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software != physical instruments. You cannot directly compare them as it doesn't cost anything (or at least, close to nothing) to distribute software once it is created, however housing and shipping and creating each individual guitar or piano is obviously much different, so that if someone stole that guitar you would really be hurting...
Railing against piracy won't do shit - if you feel a moral obligation to purchase your software, then purchase it. You say you haven't purchased all of your software...so really, how much moral authority do you have to tell other people how much they should or shouldn't purchase? It's a grey area.
My opinion is that it is ridiculous to limit your tools based on how much money you have at your disposal right now - especially if said tools are massively, ridiculously overpriced (ie waves bundle). I personally have no moral problems with trying out the software extensively before buying it.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Trevon
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 00:14
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it's hard to steal an overpriced mac book pro and get away wih murder 
it's really funny when people use waves stuff and say: I won't pay this because it's over priced...
on the new holliday campaign, each waves plugin is around 35-40$.. which is fair good price. no need to buy the mercury bundle.. $10000 duuh! 
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A.Rosengren
Solid Snake
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 00:33
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Start by buying the daw then work your way up 
p.s I can not live without the most cheesy reverb unit ever known. Reverb A from cubase internal effects haha... I need it on at least 1 channel per track
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orgytime
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 02:23
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Trevon
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 05:08
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the L1 for example is 400$ alone... ahahaah
but it's included on native power pack which is 550$ along with other 9 plugins.. with 40%off puts them on average of price that I said on the post above...
same happens for enigma on silver native pack |
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 16:07
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muscian 2 bundle is just 150 $ and it have some of their best plug , for the price you can t beat that. my favorite that i tried from waves are the cla and jjp , imo way better than their uad equivalent ,these plugs have really something analog sounding and use almost no cpu |
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MeditationProfonde
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 22:06
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Login
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Posted : Dec 23, 2010 21:51
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On 2010-11-16 07:46, mudpeople wrote:
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On 2010-11-12 11:27, Mike A wrote:
I wonder how much of the stuff people list here is paid for.
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I wonder how many people's inspirations and drives to create more and better art would be restricted, if the only ones who used expensive software synths were the ones paying? Some people have more important things in their lives than software to pay for, but at the same time artistic drive and a need to unleash that drive. Should they be denied the tools that allow them to let out what otherwise would be bottled up? Should they have to wait til some unknown future when they can afford the tools? What if the drive is gone? what if they've lost all urge to create? Why does being wealthy enough to pay hundreds, maybe thousands, on music software equate to entitlement? I understand supporting those who put time and effort, and money, into these things. Not everyone who has the real artistic drive is wealthy enough to afford them. And Im not just talking about those who spend all their money on drugs.
Should artists be denied the ability to create art, simply by virtue of lack of liquid assets?
(I know theres plenty of great free vsts out there. One could make music with only freeware, if one wanted. I know i have. The sound quality lacks in many cases, though, and that isnt so good when you want to perhaps shop your demo around. Pro VSTi's add a polish that gets attention, maybe if that attention is a label, and that track gets released, that artist/thief could then pay for the software. In an ideal world where labels paid ASAP.)
But I get offtopic...
I remembered some more;
Microgram m1
reFX Claw
INTRO
Steinberg Neon
Also check kvraudio.com and their contest winners, lots of goodies there
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Imagine if all those people who program those VST's find out nobody pay for them and STOP doing them. There will be no tools to star with.
Software enginers shouldnt be restricted from earning money from their work.
And the argument gets even more silly if you take in to account the amount of FREE software outthere. You dont want to pay? Use the real free tools.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Dec 23, 2010 22:34
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Software engineers do earn money from their work. Even if their stuff gets pirated by a small portion of their audience.
Again - it is different when you labor away on a physical product that there are only so much of, and someone steals it...as opposed to laboring away on a piece of software that, once complete, is distributable at an extremely low cost.
Oh, and as for free tools? They suck. Sure, there are a lot of really great free tools out there - but compared to the professionally developed plugins? Suck. In this scenario, I am limiting my potential and learning tools that are not as good. And why? Because I don't have enough money. Fuck money. This is especially important when it comes to considering people living in other countries that are poor. Do you think it is fair to charge $800 for an Ableton suite to someone who lives in a country where they would be happy to make $800 in a couple of months work??
Say you restrict yourself to free tools now, and wait for the professional tools until you have enough money. So then, you have to learn the free tools, then when you get the professional tools you have to learn them too. I personally would prefer to spend my time learning the tools that I know I'm going to use so that I can get past them and use them creatively, not spend endless time learning new tools as I have the money to afford them. I mean, what's the big deal if I pay for a piece of software right now, or pay for it in a couple months or a year? The software engineers still get their money for their time, and I get to not be restricted while I build up the cash to make that purchase.
When it comes down to it, I personally use the best tools that I can find, no matter if I have the money right now to buy it. Take U-He's Uhbik FX suite for instance. That shit is fucking awesome, I use it all the time...they're my bread and butter FX. However, I have not paid for them. I will - because the effort that they put into that software deserves to be rewarded imo.
Say I had a 'high moral standard' in that I wouldn't ever use software unless I paid for it up front. I might have never used Uhbik, and then I certainly would never have paid for it. In fact, in the cracked release that I have of Ubhik there is a note from Urs to the hacker team saying that he was happy for the crack, because they day the crack was released he got a couple hundred orders for Ubhik. Oh, and before you mention anything about demos...no thanks, I prefer to just use the tools and not some watered down version or some version that turns itself off or has a hissy noise after 30 seconds of use.
Just my 2 cents.
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Trevon
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 02:17
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some small companies both vst producers and samples may have closed because of the piracy...
basement arts, kjaerhus, sonart audio.
no one remembers that, no one cares. not all companies are as strong as natives instruments and so.
!j development putted their VSTs for free download, which formerly cost €99.. and then vanished from business and internet.
I wonder how many people donate to the free vsts creators, even a 1dollar.. |
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 10:41
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On 2010-11-16 07:46, mudpeople wrote:
(I know theres plenty of great free vsts out there. One could make music with only freeware, if one wanted. I know i have. The sound quality lacks in many cases, though, and that isnt so good when you want to perhaps shop your demo around. Pro VSTi's add a polish that gets attention, maybe if that attention is a label, and that track gets released, that artist/thief could then pay for the software. In an ideal world where labels paid ASAP.)
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I bought Logic 7 for 118 quid, using the educational discount. 118 quid for a great DAW, with very good sounding plug ins and soft synths. Provided you live in a country where people are starving to death, that is not expensive software for the wealthy, any way you look at it.
There are a lot of great sounding free plug-ins and native plug-ins, doing the rounds these days. If people can't get a good tune out of them, then its not the lack of expensive plug-ins that limits their creativity, its their lack of skill.
Aspiring producers that have downloaded the latest "X" plug-in suite, that costs thousands of euros, do get really shit sounding mixes.
I am not going to look down on people downloading cracked software, but we could do without the lame excuses, for doing so.
Peace out.
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Xamanist
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Posted : Dec 27, 2010 16:32
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legal cubase le 4 + selected free plugins and synths = great sound and no moral issues
Sérgio Xamanist
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