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What speakers/headphones

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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 22:32
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On 2004-01-05 22:16, Te_nTe wrote:
my 5.1 Altech got freq's response:
40HZ - 22000HZ
look on your monitor and tell me what is your




Ugh.. this isn't accurately what we are talking about. All speaker brands put this number on their speakers and call it the frequency response. However, what this doesn't tell you is how the speakers color (cut/boost) every frequency along that line. What you really need is a graph, and you'll find your consumer speakers frequency response is all over the place while a monitor is a lot flatter.

Now that is not to say you can't engineer on speakers of any quality. As long as you get accustomed to it you could use any type of speaker. But you are fooling yourselves if you think (for example) 50 dollar speakers bought at K-Mart that give a "freq response" of 50hz-20khz are just as flat as 500 dollar studio monitors that, lets say in this example, show the same freq response on the box. What this information does not tell you is how the speakers react to these frequencies which is what is important.

I have Event TR8s, and the company provided freq response is "38Hz - 20kHz, +/-3dB, ref 500Hz" Now I've listened to Altech Lansings many times, and the frequency response is probably somewhat similiar to that, something like 50Hz-20Khz. However, this is not to say they sound at all similar. The Altechs freq response is actually all over the place, boosting and cutting in certain places to sound "better" to the average person listening to music or playing games. It is not flat though. That is the purpose of monitors, to have the freq response as uncolored, flat and crisp as possible (some exceptions).
Te_nTe
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 22:49
you heard altechs - which one please?

and yes i think it is the same freq's response on both of your events and on mine

it's circuitry not something else
Te_nTe
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 23:09
there is no flat level
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Posted : Jan 6, 2004 00:02
Like Te_nTe said, there is no completely flat level.

You could use a graphic or 31band Equalizer to combat the effects of boosting and cutting in a speaker system that you had a freq response graph for. If your graph said that your speakers boosted the signal for +3dB at 1000Hz, for example, you could cut 3dB at 1000Hz with an equalizer if you put if before the speakers in the signal chain. Honestly I'm not sure how practical this method is, and I still don't think it would up to par with studio monitors. I think that would solve some of the erratic cut/boost problems, but more expensive monitors are also just naturally cleaner sounding because of the materials used, structure and technology involved.

I think someone else will probably be able to give you a better answer there, I don't have any experience EQing speakers.
Kaz
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Posted : Jan 6, 2004 10:40
And Superglue: as someone that studied a bit of analog signals, I know that it's really not as simple as frequency response. There are much bigger problems than that at making something work accurately in an analog system.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Kaz
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Posted : Jan 6, 2004 13:13
yes, but those elements as you put it are not 100% accurate, I'm talking on a low-level analog design problem.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
limbic
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Posted : Jan 6, 2004 15:31
necterius....have u read all this topic...if yes do u agree with super glue opinion....cause from what i read here u have a lot of knowledge and u know what your talkin....also i read a post of u in past that u telll about your expirences with monitors through your life so plz tyour opinion important to me i will ill appriciate it a lot
limbic
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Posted : Jan 6, 2004 21:02
thats exactly what i meant nectarius hugh thanks to u ....!!!!!
WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Jan 17, 2004 22:21
lol ....

so nectarios saved limbic's ass

hehhehehehehhee....
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