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Alek
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 10:05
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Speakers: JBL s36 Studio Monitors + Quad 405 amp
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600
  How am I supposed to hallucinate with all these swirling colors distracting me! |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 10:19
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On 2004-01-03 21:43, SuperGlue wrote:
kaz it's not monitors !!!!
it's the ears !!!
if u think that u will buy monitor and all things that u hear and will sound very well to u will REALLY sound that on other systems
KAZ take some CD' (Legal not from internet)
listen to it on your speakers and learn how they did it !!! and try to make same thing !!!
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OK, so you don't know what you're talking about. I am talking about music I made. Not about other people's music. Seriously, some systems color sound, but are you expecting that an entire system that costs less than 1/10th of one Dynaudio speaker will give sound that's accurate? And do you really think I would like to sound like everyone else? I'm not even talking about a mediocre home cinema system (which gives rather accurate sound in order to give proper surround positioning) - which STILL has it's fuck ups btw.
I've showed an example of one track that sounds awesome at my place and has absolutely no sub on any system with a woofer or monitors (hell, or even headphones), and even some friends thought that I had a lot of sub on my own system (it sounded a lot like a fat DnB bass, btw). This is not a subjective problem - some speakers just suck.
The problem of frequency ranges not being properly seperated by speakers also happens in monitors, only in much less extreme ways (sometimes due to acoustics, but not always), because as you probably noticed, every system 'colors' sound, and sometimes it has nothing to do with getting the EQ flat.
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 18:31
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so kaz - superglue is right!!!
your ears arent good enough!!!
if you learned your system well and your ear is regular to this you will know that on your system you must make a powerful bass - so that will be a "regular" on other systems.
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Reconstructed
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 20:17
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SuperGlue,
Generally the name of the game when buying monitors vrs consumer speakers is frequency response. Monitors aim to get a flatter frequency response and thus a more accurate representation of what the music sounds like. Consumer speakers have very erratic frequency response, usually boosting the lows and doing a bunch of funky things with the mids.
If you are using consumer speakers and not monitors when you are producing you are not hearing accurately what your tracks sound like. To me that is like a painter painting with his eyes closed. If your speakers overly boost bass, you aren't going to make your bass sounds as full and as a result they will sound soft and weak on monitors or expensive speakers. |
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Reconstructed
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 22:43
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I didn't say they are flat. A completely flat frequency response is impossible.
It is a matter of magnitude. Consumer speakers' frequency response is literally all over the place. Monitor frequence response is much closer to being flat and thus do not color the sound as much. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 01:12
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Superglue: a cheap speaker system might be at +1db at 50Hz and -5db at 55-120Hz and again +1 at 120-200. Construction of a 'perfect' balance is very hard, and many speakers 'cheat' in order to create a fatter sound - some frequency boosts are not just innacurate, but not even necessarily linear or even non-changing - it's all according to the signal processing technology used in the way from the original signal to the output. And signal processing with analog technology (as eventually the output has to be analog) was never a 100% accurate thing.
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limbic
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 02:37
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super flue....why the fuck there is monitors lets all get used to the most siimple and cheap speakers and make music.....why someone invented it??can u tell me why the hell there such thing called studio monitor if we dont need as u say ....? |
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limbic
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 18:50
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so all this studio monitors manufactors are just lieing??? |
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 22:12
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Limbic - you didnt get it till now - so one more time.
1.Do you know how you make a freq's response - it is very simple - if you want i will give you program which counts it.
The manufacturers not lieing - they writing exactly. but anyone dont bother to see what is freq's response of speakers.Check it please.
Yes superglue right - you can make your own monitors , and all you need is a program which counts and shows you a circuit and the most valuable thing is the wood .
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 22:16
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my 5.1 Altech got freq's response:
40HZ - 22000HZ
look on your monitor and tell me what is your
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