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What sample u like most ?

daark
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 00:53:37

Dark or Psychedelic?

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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 05:09

say what?

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rich
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 06:36

Psychedelic can be dark or funny or whatever cos it's you who makes of it whatever comes to you! That's why we dig psychedelic trance right!

Upavas
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 10:06

Yes!

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Spaced-out Rastaman
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 13:57

I think that the question means what 'style' of trance do we prefer. Dark trance or 'regular' psy-trance? That's my humble opinion.

If this is the case then, I usually prefer psy-trance. I'm not used to dark although I used to listen to pretty aggressive thrash metal when I was younger.

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Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 15:48

Quote:

On 2010-09-22 00:53:37, daark wrote:
Dark or Psychedelic?

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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 18:35

Quote:

On 2010-09-22 10:06, Upavas wrote:
Yes!

Mike A
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 22:54

I made a "dark sample" search on google pics. Nothing interesting found.

aXis
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Posted : Sep 23, 2010 07:55

i like snare samples.

Fometrius
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Posted : Sep 23, 2010 08:00

do you mean kinda like,this:

Do you like:

1:(dark) Screams,clips from horror movies,barks from angry dogs or grunting sounds,samples of people in agony,sounds in minor scale,chaotic sounds,sounds from people that are angry etc (typical horror movie stuff),words or sounds from movies that brings standard associations with what we usually define as something "dark".

or,do you like

2:(psychedelic)Complex sound structures,very mysterious.Can put you into a meditative state and deep trance states.Giving you otherwordly feelings in a way you cannot explain.You experience and get feelings of something many would call "of a spiritual nature". Something that many would call supernatural, that feels like beyond what we can understand and explain.

I enjoy nr 2 , psychedelic.

What would you define as the thing seperating this two ones?

Were does the line go between what is "dark" and what is "psychedelic"?

Myself i see a difference between music that one could call psychedelic or dark.Dark is when the music focuses on what we usually define as dark,that vibe or emotion ,while psychedelic is bigger.Psychedelic can contain dark as a painting can contain another colour.

Well,this is all just words,and what is a word,it is a pointer.So all a word can do is to point towards all those associations oneself got with the word.Therefore we all experience words differently and they have different meanings to us since we got different associations.

So dark means another thing for you and psychedelic another thing for me,vice verse.

One thing that has been spoken about earlier is that many produders gets labelled as dark because of having a high bpm and many "twisted" and complex sound structures.

Then there is those who wants to be "dark" ,to use all those classic pointers in terms of words that brings some associations and samples of screams,horror movies etc.

Anyhow, it is about the music,not the pointers(word samples).Some music ,lets say a track with 150 bpm ,low octave base and squelchy sounds,perhaps just generally for the standard human mind creates a feeling(s) or an entrance inside oneself to deeper levels that many think of as unpleasent.

It is all about the meeting between the listener and the music,just like an experience and the one having the experience.Different person,different experience.

So one maybe experience a track as,mysterious,transcendental whilst another one experience it as something dark because it is sounds that they have not hard before,also,much labelled as dark can be very aggressive,choatic and contains feelings of despair etc.

But in the end,really,it`s all about the meeting between the listener and the music itself.Play a track for a insect or a cat and the experience about it will change.And every people think different about every tracks and sounds.It is not the sound itself because the one listening to the sound decides what or how the sound sounds like.So what it is is created between the creator of the music and the one listening.Then of course some kind of sounds, music scales etc we generally, naturally experience in similiar ways.

But in some cases,i think one can put a word on some act`s,because it feels fitting.Perhaps it can be good to label some acts as dark psy but for others not.I myself however view many so called dark psy acts as very very different compared to each other and in terms of being sound guides,they take me to very different "places".

Take metal music as en example,they have death metal etc for their acts that are most hard and raw.And there is some similiarites there with the dark psy acts,the focus on some scales,like minor etc.Not the usual major etc,minor usually brings feelings that humans genereally experience as unpleasent.And that fast bpm,the same pointers in forms of styles of samples,cd decoration,overall vibe etc,choatic sound structures,aggresives and perhaps music parts which many would associate with despair,hate etc,all those things that we usually define as something,dark and negative.Sure, some acts in my way of thinking feels fitting to call dark or something like that.

There is a obvious difference(in terms of creating emotions through sound structures) between many regular psytrance acts and acts being called darkpsy,but,there is also a big difference in the acts being called dark psy.

So i think it`s a bit wrong that many producers who creates fast bpm music,perhaps a hard low octave bass and uses lots of mysterious vibes,sound textures ,melodies etc gets boxed in the same map as the other stuff.It creates confusion.Especially for people who not have heard so much.

However ,one has to remember that every artist "represent" a unique sound,because they are a unique person and does not belong to a group,even though they may use sounds and ways of creatings sounds as a certain group does they still "represent" a unique way of creating sounds and building tracks.

After listening a while and being openminded to different psy styles, one usually starts to "learn" or discover what one mostly enjoys,although one may shift a bit in the music taste.

daark
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Posted : Sep 23, 2010 09:26

dark sample means - a dude(or robot) say "dark." dagagdadagagda "dark." etc.
and psychedelic is the same but says "psychedelic."

"psychedelic". dugugugu dugugugu dugugugu shnizk "psychedelic."

Was too lazy too find on youtube