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What's different between dark and psytrance

Supa Tu Zill
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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 18:34:53
Else tban a bom changening?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 18:37
'Dark' is a part of psytrance.

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Alekzis


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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 20:39
"part" for you
for me 2 completely different things.
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The Bap
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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 22:08
"dark" is a type of psytrance that focuses on dark/horror/ emotions and atmospheres. It's still Psytrance as Colin said. (more than "just my opinion")           https://soundcloud.com/craic-addict
bukboy
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Posted : Jul 16, 2013 16:30
dark generally means all the things which go along with it. i.e mysterious, foreboding, unpredictable, uncertain, dissonant. All the things you feel at night. which is not to say that light cant have that jazz in, but certainly not as main flavours.

Ofcourse there is dark and there's what people say is dark very mistakenly. The horror shit trance which is repetitive, predictable, monotonic, screaming, relentlessly driving without any contrast and fucking boring, is not really dark. Its just what assholes with no talent aspire for their shit to be, by calling it dark and hoping no-one notices.

There are some excellent masterwork pieces of dark stuff. dark soho (god rest their burger flipping soul), that dude xenomorph (decrepit and putrefying by now) and I like phatmatix's "deus ex machina" as examples.
OzMike
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Posted : Jul 17, 2013 00:26
Dark is sexy, fun & an exploration in to the unknown.

Current "psy" trance is boring, old & like a warty $2 whore scavenging for the left overs of a past glory.           Cuntus Maximus.
zwarag
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Posted : Jul 17, 2013 16:13
I know psy for 3 years know.
To me dark is the wish of one or more individuals to reflect the universe.
Kinda what i suppose psytrance was in the 90s.
It just got higher vibration, wich manipulates itlef like a fm feedback wich is controlled by the feedback of the feedback^^.
So its affecting the bpm and the complexity of synthesis of sound used by.
One might say dark psy is a bunch of mad scientists surfing on a infinitive wave (like the infinitive symbol) on the way to discover thigs one might not ever heard of before.

And the "common" psytrance today, is what $$$ and the ego developed out of this beautifull engineering.
Like you know, you want to make money and need to be proven by others to feel you're doing good.
The Bap
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 00:36
man, where are all these $$$$s coz I have 2 kids to feed and I'm friggin broke! Seriously, I'll make that stuff! Call it whatever you want!           https://soundcloud.com/craic-addict
Nectarios
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 00:54
Psytrance: Niiiiice.
Dark: Nah.           
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ZenMind
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 01:26
The difference is how deep one can travel

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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 09:47
then there is a mix of both, Twilight... me loooooooves!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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OzMike
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 16:12
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On 2013-07-18 00:36, The Bap wrote:
man, where are all these $$$$s coz I have 2 kids to feed and I'm friggin broke! Seriously, I'll make that stuff! Call it whatever you want!




Make electro house & hard style/bro step. Lots of money to be made IMO.

Prog house as well. You'll never make a cent from any kind of sounds in this scene.

I prefer making music of any kind for $$$ & being a stay at home Dad than going back to an every day job. And yes that me as I've been making/playing a lot of bro-step & hard style the last few months. It pays well.           Cuntus Maximus.
fruitopia


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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 16:45
dark is an old nickname for the kinda new, fast and not cheesy psychedelic music. psytrance is the short phrase music with the loud bass that showed up around 2000-3 mostly by cosma and astrix then many followed this way and some cheesed it a lot.
knocz
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Posted : Jul 18, 2013 17:25
Quote:

On 2013-07-18 16:45, fruitopia wrote:
dark is an old nickname for the kinda new, fast and not cheesy psychedelic music. psytrance is the short phrase music with the loud bass that showed up around 2000-3 mostly by cosma and astrix then many followed this way and some cheesed it a lot.


I used to remember dark artists and parties back at this time.. And just about every major genre there is today (well, not hi-tech)

Psytrance is the genre. It has a lot of sub genres, from which Dark is one of them, next to progressive and full on, and those who want to expand it even more go into morning full on, night full on, that twilight, hi-tech, suomi, and whatever else.

But as Colin said, dark is a part of psytrance, as in a sub-category.


Now, what distinguishes dark from the rest of the psytrance categories is a bigger discussion, as these are just labels that people apply to music (and the people don't always agree).

It's characterized with fast and deep beats (150 / 180 bpm) with very mental and rhythmic leads. Dark artist tend to have a great dis concern about song structure, flipping beats like someone flippin burgers. Dark music is very personal (not as commercial of abroad as full on), and it explores many different emotions than the "groovy", "cool", "happy" and "sad" that is typical from many sounds, somewhat going into atonal repetitions and unknown feelings. IMHO Dark is best listened to while full of blotters, you become extremely susceptible to the music and the trip           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
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