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What part of Live sets are LIVE??
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bholenath
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 10:34
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Ive never been to a Live Performance of an Artist (Only heard DJ-Sets)...Could someone please tell me, what part of these sets are actually performed live and what parts have been programmed from before?..
THANX
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medir
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 10:44
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depends on the artist:
some play a .wav in an waveeditor ( live playing .wav...*lol*), others play on gear and have premade percussion, bd-/b-line,...or one track after the other comes in the seq. -that s live !
bombom
experiment !
make it your motto day and night.
experiment,
and it will lead you to the light.
the apple on the top of the tree
is never too high to achieve,
so take an example from eve...
experiment ! |
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medir
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Posted: Feb 18, 2003
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...superglue:
i d like to have one of these NASA-devices too !!!
-have heard that they ve got an liquid nitrogen cooler, is that correct ?!?
---> where can i get it ?!
*lol*
...boOoOom
experiment !
make it your motto day and night.
experiment,
and it will lead you to the light.
the apple on the top of the tree
is never too high to achieve,
so take an example from eve...
experiment ! |
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djsid
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 13:49
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monno
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 16:38
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On 2003-02-18 11:09, SuperGlue wrote:
some of lame live acts ppl just bring cubase or logic and start to mix in there !!!!
put some effects in track as midi contolled channel and start to play with knobs on midi device ( like midi controller , viruses , nord leads or things that they bought just for fun)
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Lamers my ass! how do you think the music is created huh??? using hardware sequencers and old school analogue equipment not fit for bringing to a gig...
no! what people use is what you mentioned
computer,synths etc so why should they not use it live. look around in other genres and tell me they donīt use some preprogrammed material in their sets. why shouldnīt we prepare for a liveact to make sure that things donīt sound shitty and donīt fuck up cuz to me the worst thing during a set is if the music stops(not a very psychedelic moment at all). good preparation is essential to a liveact. sure there are some lamers that just play a wave and nothing else but thats just the way itīs gonna be i guess.
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Summum Bonum
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 22:42
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On 2003-02-18 13:49, djsid wrote:
well id love to hear some live fusion acts where they get on with their acoustic equips like tabla and sitar and mix with psy.
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You might wanna check out Talvin Singh's sets where he uses his "Tablatronic" (an electric Tabla) hooked up to a Mac. It's not "Psy" but still pretty interesting Break-beat & D'N'B style Indian fusion.
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 23:43
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Superglue chill or be chilled
REHAB is for quitters |
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C3PO
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Posted : Feb 19, 2003 00:05
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On 2003-02-18 20:20, SuperGlue wrote:
u read my post again and try to understand it !!!
then u will teach me about music and other things !
virus, nord lead are an analog machines also !
meant playin knobs without any effect on track just for FUN u MoFu
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nord-lead and virus are analogue ???
if so , with the "psp-vintage-warmer vst" installed
i have some real tubes inside my computer
and something to the subject , the biggest problem in
live performance with analogue synths is that those old
machines has no memory to save a patch .
i had a live gig in last year, in a small venue ,
and i played my midi parts in cubase2.5 mixing 8 cables
of audio from akai sampler to 01v digital desk .
i took also a sh101 and drum-machine there.
all i was doing is muting/unmuting channels ,
changing effects and filtering the channels with the
mixer's eq , using hi-pass and lo-pass filters .
ok, "here comes the bassline" , i had 6 tracks to play ,
and most of the basslines came out of the sh101 ,
so before the gig i wrote down to paper all the 101's
slider parameters for every track , and i was changing
them in between tracks "live" . . .
that was a stupid idea . . .
it was very dark in there , and it was a fu*kin' nightmare ,
and i never take analogue synth to a live gig again .
but anyway it was a big fun after all , and nobody even
noticed how i f*ck'd up with this synth, but the music got
flow , and when i was loading samples for the next track
i just put on a tape with cool noizes that i made specially
to fill the "moments of scilence" .
about the question "what parts can be played live ?"
i think that live performance is not only about playing
some "live" parts on top of "pre recorded" ones .
it's also about the art of mixing all the parts from
different tracks into something new ,
with keeping the groove flow.
ofcourse every part can be played live,
and it needs to be choosen carefully before playing the tracks .
Peace.
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C3PO
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Posted : Feb 19, 2003 00:59
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btw, one of the most interesting live gigs that i heard is:
Coldcut Vs The Orb (part1) at KissFM Xmas1991
it's a old one , but it's one amazing combination of almost
all electronic music genres in one live show .
they just break all the rools between music genres in very
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monno
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Posted : Feb 19, 2003 01:34
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so what you are saying superglue is that some people bring gear and just stand around pretending to use it...that is indeed a lame attitude
it seems more apropiate for that kind of people to just do a cd set then.pretending to play is a thing used on top of the pops not on a stage in front of music lovers,and some people (not all) will be able to tell a live from a playback/cd set. i may have come on pretty strongly about this subject, but it concerns me very much that some artists that have the means to do it donīt even bother to do something live. i would get bored and not know what to do of myself if i didnīt have something to tweak on stage, also i would feel that i am cheating people by advertising a live act if the only live thing is the presence of the people in the band,which sometimes is also an argument for booking a live act, albeit not one of mine
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C3PO
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Posted : Feb 19, 2003 20:47
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the truth about bands who bring lots of synths on stage
and play a cd behind that , it's mostly established
producers, who got themselves into very commercial
level already , and it's not always they'r equipement .
they getting the newest synths from the biggest
companys , just to put them on stage at the "show" ,
and big companys like "waldorf" , "access" or "roland"
pay good money to those artists , sometimes they give
them those synths for free after the show .
if you ask "What for?"
because after the show all the kids going to ask each
other , on forums here and there , this question:
"What synth the band "X" used at live gigs ???"
they will get an answer, they will buy one of those synths
because they think that this will make them big and
famous producers .
my point is that nobody is "cheating" ppl just make good
money out of that , and nobody will bring tons of heavy
equipement on stage just for fun around a cd-player .
Peace. |
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