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What next?

loki
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Posted : Jan 27, 2013 22:44:32
So I've been making music electronically for a couple of years and I'm pretty happy with where I've come to these days. I'm currently putting new tracks together for some sort of a release; you can find my old tracks @ http://soundcloud.com/mixyott

I'm wondering where to go next. Should I grab another powerhouse VST? Is it time to buy an analog synth (I do love squelches...)? Should I upgrade my monitors? Interface? I just rebuilt my studio after a fire, so I'll list my setup.

Hardware:
-Macboook Pro 2.95ghz core 2 duo
-Apogee Duet interface
-Novation SL-MkII 49-key midi controller
-Adam A7s as monitors
-Rhode NTK tube microphone

Software:
-Logic Pro 9 (and all native plugs, of course)
-Omnisphere
-Sylenth
-Albino 3
-ACE

I'm looking to improve:
-Quality, clarity, and phatness of mixes
-General inspiration for out-of-the-ordinary sounds, especially organic-sounding stuff.
-My live set (I have Ableton and an APC40, but haven't actually used them much yet).

All ideas welcome!           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
www.soundcloud.com/mixyott
PoM
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Posted : Jan 27, 2013 23:07
do you lost some stuff with fire? that bad luck man

your setup look pretty good to me..you dont really need anyhtign else but it depend what you are after...

do you have a good headphone? always usefull when not in the studio or to double check mixs.. it can show you different things than monitors.

synths with different caracteres to add more pallete to your sound could be good too.. fr Xs can be squeltchy and riping,acid.. the filter and caractere can be kinda agressive.. but i guess for these sound you would like supersaw / unisson stereo ? you won t get that out of it.

here a thread about the Xs if some want to read more/know more about this synth , that is a bit a unknown synth cause it not produced in mass.. but it deserve to be more well known as imo it s for now a kind of a secret hiden synth
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-music-production/734403-future-retro-xs-me.html
makus
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 13:30
man, get proper monitors.           
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knocz
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 16:33
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On 2013-01-27 22:44:32, loki wrote:
-My live set (I have Ableton and an APC40, but haven't actually used them much yet).


Instead of trying to get more, learn what you've already have.

Here's a great resource for fine tuning the functionality of the APC http://remotescripts.blogspot.pt/p/apc-64-40.html


Also, I'm wit Makus.. buy new monitors and sell me yours           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
aje
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 18:12
Judging by the quality of music that you post, you are doing just fine IMHO, hahaha

That being said, get a small analog synth for the squelches you love. I find that nothing can emulate the resonace of an analog filter, and it seems to be lacking in your set-up. I suggest Doepfer Dark Energy, I have it and I love it. Its really flexible and scores big in the happy accident department due to the one button one function set-up!

And as far as I know Adam a7 are great, arent they? Why get new ones if you know them well?
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makus
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 19:01
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On 2013-01-28 18:12, aje wrote:


And as far as I know Adam a7 are great, arent they? Why get new ones if you know them well?




well, if A7 are that great, why people bother getting other, more expensive stuff? What about $3k or $5k monitors? My opinion (I worked on a7s for ~18 months) that they are pretty much entry level.

PMC, ATC, Reds... there are things that don't fit even into my whishlist.

http://vintageking.com/recording-gear/monitoring/speakers/active-speakers/atc-loudspeakers-scm300asl-single

lol.          
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 19:28
idk about the difference between adam a7x and a7, but I doubt I will replace my a7x in the next 5 years or ever considering how many other things are above them on the priority list.

I would either buy or build an analog synth if I were in OP's shoes. Had my first experience with analog last night and it was exciting as fuck.

As for OPs stated goals, I don't think that analog will improve the clarity of your mixes, but it is definitely inspiring from a sound design perspective and general 'man I enjoy tweaking this thing SO MUCH'            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 19:40
maybe fx too.. so much way to spend some cash.. there a new eventide pedal you can buy some of their algos online and load them in...could be intresting.

i love the cluster fux..i haven t used it much for chorus and flange yet .. but i compress a lot the sound with the input..give instant tickness and dirtyness on drums. (it remind me a friend console.. it color similar but i got this similar color/density for a fraction of the price + chorus and flange, was a really good buy for me)

give moogish color to synth too..

that pedal can really make my Xs sound dope.. to me , it wouldnt cost as much, i would get 2 to sum plugins into it in stereo to give them more caractere and depth
Suloo
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Posted : Jan 28, 2013 20:35
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On 2013-01-28 19:01, makus wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-01-28 18:12, aje wrote:


And as far as I know Adam a7 are great, arent they? Why get new ones if you know them well?




well, if A7 are that great, why people bother getting other, more expensive stuff? What about $3k or $5k monitors? My opinion (I worked on a7s for ~18 months) that they are pretty much entry level.

PMC, ATC, Reds... there are things that don't fit even into my whishlist.

http://vintageking.com/recording-gear/monitoring/speakers/active-speakers/atc-loudspeakers-scm300asl-single

lol.



sure far field monitors are way more expensive, but for nearfield the A7 are great imo..

how big is your room loki, maybe invest in accoustical treatment first before spending money for toys^^           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
loki
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Posted : Jan 29, 2013 23:09
The room is 10x14ish studio but I'll be moving soon.

Definitely do want to upgrade the Adams eventually/ makus, of those or others, which would you do in the >4000 range? The Adams lack (or is it just my tunes, hahaha) in bass depth and clarity, though I'm still very pleased with the highs.

Wil, what was the analog you got to play with? It would be a long time coming but it would vastly improve the sounds of my beloved sawtooth farts.           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
www.soundcloud.com/mixyott
Suloo
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Posted : Jan 30, 2013 00:52
http://www.thomann.de/de/kleinhummel_o_300_r.htm


those are really great and clean..           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 30, 2013 00:59
I was playing around with the synth shop's modular system, which was very inspiring. Got to check out a pittsburg oscillator, a borg filter, some makenoise modules, and a bunch of other shit I don't understand at all.

The coolest experience was plugging something in and deciding what to do next, and the sound is just going...but then randomly something happens to it that I didn't expect. It's alive!

then after that I went over to my buddy's and he had just built a Mutable Instruments Anushri synth and wow, that thing is awesome. If you have any soldering knowledge you should order the kit next time it becomes available.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Kolishin Methud


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Posted : Jan 30, 2013 07:34
honestly man you're mixes sound pretty good anyways if you're already used to your monitors i say keep them, they work. simple as that. people will argue under the bridge all day long and say x brand worth $500+ are worse than brand y worth $5000. sure they might be but its what works for you in the end. and last time i checked that adams were very good monitors.

Let the music speak for itself my friend!

But in my opinion i would focus on releasing and playing gigs imho if thats what you want to make of your music           http://soundcloud.com/brentmalik
Djones
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Posted : Jan 30, 2013 16:36
If you love squelches, imo the Nord Lead/Rack is the way to go.
loki
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Posted : Jan 30, 2013 19:17
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Kolishin Methud wrote:
honestly man you're mixes sound pretty good anyways if you're already used to your monitors i say keep them, they work. simple as that. people will argue under the bridge all day long and say x brand worth $500+ are worse than brand y worth $5000. sure they might be but its what works for you in the end. and last time i checked that adams were very good monitors.




Thanks for the compliments, but it's more about ease of workflow than good mixes in the long run. If it takes me 10 hours just to mix my bass in right, I lose a lot of creative energy. "Taking away the guesswork" is what I'm looking for - and if that means monitors, I'll do it.

But - you're right - I should probably focus on producing, live set, and gigs...

Djones, why you say Nord for squelches, rather than analog? Anyone else have experience?           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
www.soundcloud.com/mixyott
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