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On 2005-11-16 08:59, shamanizer wrote:
A second thought, Ganjagil, even though your intentions are surely good and i agree with you on most of the things you said I started to think about this issue also from another point of view. This doesn't concern music, in my opinion anyone has right to make music if they feel like it, we can always vote by not listening to it.
The thing I was thinking concerns the lack of spirituality in the scene and parties, which of course is a pity, but then again, do we have a right to judge people who just come to parties to have fun, enjoy the atmosphere, dance, drop whatever down their throats etc. without thinking the spiritual roots of psychedelic trance. I don't think we can judge them, they have a right to behave in such manner if they do not harm anyone else.
I know this sounds a bit controversial, but if I remember right one of the early elements of psytrance scene was tolerance and come as you are thinking.
I still wish spirituality would have bigger part in parties and scene, but what to do, what would be the solution? Is delivering the message of PLUR enough, it doesn't seem to go through to everyone, or should there be different gatherings for people who still praise the spirituality? This is not necessarily good either, but please people, give these things a thought or two and maybe we will come up with an answer.

On 2005-11-11 12:02, ganjagil wrote:
It's a circus which i cannot beleive how from spiritual you can go so down and going to a trance party like going to a house party with all ego's up and lots of coke extacy and lollipops

On 2005-11-16 20:42, Side-A wrote:

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On 2005-11-11 12:02, ganjagil wrote: It's a circus which i cannot beleive how from spiritual you can go so down and going to a trance party like going to a house party with all ego's up and lots of coke extacy and lollipops

there are far less drug heads and lollipops in underground house events than in trance parties , that's for sure!

On 2005-11-17 10:35, The Green Channel wrote:

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On 2005-11-16 20:42, Side-A wrote: Quote: On 2005-11-11 12:02, ganjagil wrote: It's a circus which i cannot beleive how from spiritual you can go so down and going to a trance party like going to a house party with all ego's up and lots of coke extacy and lollipops there are far less drug heads and lollipops in underground house events than in trance parties , that's for sure!

Not in my Exp. , far more people on coke, XTC and almost none on psychedelics.

On 2005-11-17 12:26, Willy Wonka wrote:
How possibly you enjoy 128BPM house under extacy? You would rather enjoy 145BPM psytrance. Am i right?

On 2005-11-17 12:36, Willy Wonka wrote:
God save your poor soul, i guess when you die(in 2012 as we all will as Mayan's calendar says) half of Norway will die from the chemical waste your body will release to air.

On 2005-11-17 13:16, ori_k wrote:
i'd have to disagree with what ganja gil said cause i think some of the artists from doof records(cactus!!!) can really get u trancin' with their music and als new Jaia album
but of course....mainly Ambient&Chill(Shulman...!)

On 2005-11-17 13:58, ganjagil wrote:

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On 2005-11-17 13:16, ori_k wrote: i'd have to disagree with what ganja gil said cause i think some of the artists from doof records(cactus!!!) can really get u trancin' with their music and als new Jaia album but of course....mainly Ambient&Chill(Shulman...!)

You are actually agreeing with me man because for me i trance with the cillout more today it's a complete music and a complete trip, best feeling i ever experienced is acid and this chillout it feels like heaven! Exactly...bom

Ganja

On 2005-11-18 00:03, offthenutboom wrote:

Yes Ganja I agree with you, but I need a few more cilinders in my music to get that total abstraction euphoric trance where time stops in each stomp. Is it hard to find... yes, but it is out there. And the parties you talk about are also out there.