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Posted : Nov 14, 2005 14:06
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On 2005-11-14 13:45, ganjagil wrote:
Fuck the ego's let's make what we like let's make the togetherness we had before and even better!
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Thats ego. Right there. I can smell it 
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crovax
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Posted : Nov 14, 2005 16:00
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Trance are already there
why keep complaining about sucky releases? just filter out the shit and enjoy the good stuff, it is there and theres going to be more |
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ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 14, 2005 19:18
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On 2005-11-14 14:06, Kire-naj wrote:
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On 2005-11-14 13:45, ganjagil wrote:
Fuck the ego's let's make what we like let's make the togetherness we had before and even better!
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Thats ego. Right there. I can smell it
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Thanks for telling me you are right because it's a continious battle to get your ego off especially when your hurt for such a long time! Sorry it was not the right thing to say...
Bom
Ganja
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Evil Fucker
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Posted : Nov 14, 2005 20:53
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On 2005-11-14 13:45, ganjagil wrote:
I am happy that i am not alone now i will work with even more hearth to make a change in this scene. It is obvious that trance will recover because trance is not just music it is so much more, it will never die because of our intense love of this feeling! Trance is going to be back soon i am sure i can feel it. Fuck the ego's let's make what we like let's make the togetherness we had before and even better!
Thanks everyone for such a great feedback i send lots of energy through the net and soon i will send lots through the music!
Bom
Ganja
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Hale Hale Ganjagil ! El Salvatore de Trance !
If your words are not just plain EGO I realy don't know... the rest is you complaining all the time about shit music while so many good releases are out there, and offending peolpe, there are good releases out there made by just fruity Loops. "And it's not what you have it's how you use it" !, and we all have learned that frase since young age , and all the time you are so nagative, you are just so blind to see or maybe your EGO has blinded you so badly that the music you are making is the only light .... while none of us have heard anything yet from you so far or what project name you release under ? .... Trance Messaya ?
I would say my friend sit there quitly in your little studio and concentrate on making some good music and let the music speaks for it self 
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 14, 2005 21:02
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Then he will probably learn how hard is to create something special, unique and creative with the ability to get released at the label which can sell at least 5k copies so 5 thousand man can listen to his art.
"there once was a lesbian from Cancun
who took a young man up to her room
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ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 00:34
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On 2005-11-14 20:53, Evil Fucker wrote:
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On 2005-11-14 13:45, ganjagil wrote:
I am happy that i am not alone now i will work with even more hearth to make a change in this scene. It is obvious that trance will recover because trance is not just music it is so much more, it will never die because of our intense love of this feeling! Trance is going to be back soon i am sure i can feel it. Fuck the ego's let's make what we like let's make the togetherness we had before and even better!
Thanks everyone for such a great feedback i send lots of energy through the net and soon i will send lots through the music!
Bom
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Hale Hale Ganjagil ! El Salvatore de Trance !
If your words are not just plain EGO I realy don't know... the rest is you complaining all the time about shit music while so many good releases are out there, and offending peolpe, there are good releases out there made by just fruity Loops. "And it's not what you have it's how you use it" !, and we all have learned that frase since young age , and all the time you are so nagative, you are just so blind to see or maybe your EGO has blinded you so badly that the music you are making is the only light .... while none of us have heard anything yet from you so far or what project name you release under ? .... Trance Messaya ?
I would say my friend sit there quitly in your little studio and concentrate on making some good music and let the music speaks for it self
Good luck with your project
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Even your name shows what kind of person you are man! I am just trying to understand what kind of people frequent isra nowadays that the scene is so...I know that good music is coming out sometimes do not worry i know that and thanks god for that too! Your posts are always against me Mr. Evil even before and i never attcked you at all so please go post your negative thoughts somewere else. also if you think you can get a really good release with only fruity loops man you must be very simple in music! i try to understand why people buy a big studio and many external gear maybe we should tell simon posford to start using fruity loops instead because it's how you use it isn't it! lololol
bom
ganja
Your sound, is your music, is your soul keep them all on the right track!
Please Check our music at:
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www.soulkontakt.com
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 01:46
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On 2005-11-14 14:06, Kire-naj wrote:
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On 2005-11-14 13:45, ganjagil wrote:
Fuck the ego's let's make what we like let's make the togetherness we had before and even better!
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Thats ego. Right there. I can smell it
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No, that's the opposite of ego-tripping  . Her wish is born out of love and not selfish desires.
Ganja:
There have been a lot of angry people posting in the forum lately, don't mind them.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 02:38
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On 2005-11-14 06:19, Willy Wonka wrote:
Ok, now we get close to the point. So if you do it for love, maybe you should do it so more ppl can listen to it so everybody should see your love and not the chosen freaks?
Maybe first you need to be somewhere in scene in order to make what you like to?
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If you do it because you love it, you just do it.
It does not matter how many listen to you, or how much money you get. You sit down and do it. And that is the true joy from someone that really loves what he/she does. The rest is a result of your effort. |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 02:51
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On 2005-11-12 23:52, Willy Wonka wrote:
Well you right somewhere, but i ask myself why? I can find new scene with music i like, What for i should keep something that already developed into last stages of it.
This is the issue, once psytrance was or still had underground and talent in it i was very active and did for it what i could for free as joy. Artists promotion, party promotion, help with parties, help with equipment and production. Just now it's pointless
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I do not know, I do really find interesting releases accross the board, night, day and chill. I mean even when I played Goa 10 years ago, not all tracks were amazing. I did not play more than one or two tracks from a release.
We all have a taste and we have to really dig to find that music that connects with us. If you do not find what you are looking for, then it means that the message inside of you is so personal, that the only way you can find this music is if you make it yourself. I make music. Everytrack sounds better and gets closer to what I like. I am stearing my whole life to get more serious, not just about trance, but about music. I just love it. I love to play it (DJing), I love to make it... sometime I sit in the morning and suddenly I realize the Sun is setting. |
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uvego
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 02:53
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people have right to be angry, what a fuck is this for sure !!!
trance music and trance culture become most ego-shit music genre. everybody wants to be an artist, everybody wants to be a dj, everidoby wants to be a label....SLOW DOWN PEOPLE....this is music and music is for profesional musitians, not for all of you who have Logic Pro in your machine and all of you who have some friends on internet so you can open a label
some quality releases nowerdays YES, but a big big 70% is a crap
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Evil Fucker
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 09:34
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I am sure you don't judge the book by it's cover ganjagil, the thing is I have been looking at your posts and if there a person being so negative is always you, far apart of being nagative about you is that I am trying to knock some sence into you by sitting in your studio and make some music and let it speak for you instead of coming in here shouting how you are going to save the world soon. and I was just trying to give you an examples about if you are not creative and have all the abiltity of making good music does not matter how much gear you have ! and you all know that,
Take Prodigy for instance the last album he produced he used Just Reason !
Now yes I do agree that there is some shit music around that is certain, but why all the time so nagative, why don't you focus and be positive and talk about the little good music there is around...
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Evil Fucker
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 19:14
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and not to say the I don't agree with you in some matters yes wrong drugs wrong music as always but deffinitly we can't stop that can we now ?
You said that you don't like the dark scene as you called, I'll say for the many years I have been in this scene I can say that some realy good artists making some good psychedelic trance and I find it the best around at the moment, I would say you also must filter it to get the good and creative ones out ! |
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thegooddale
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 20:17
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On 2005-11-11 12:02, ganjagil wrote:
Hi there i have been on a long trip from which i learnt how much trance is lost and how much more people came and took this scene and made a comedy out of it. It's a circus which i cannot beleive how from spiritual you can go so down and going to a trance party like going to a house party with all ego's up and lots of coke extacy and lollipops. You know even here on Isratrance there is no such topic as taking seriously what music and Halucingenic drugs take you or even a topic that regards the real feeling of trance. it is sick that people keep on calling this music trance, in fact i cannot say that i like trance anymore cause in reality i do not. I do not like full on and i do not like dark scene either so now all i love is the chill out...Trance today is in the chillout for me there is the real voyage in the music....anybody agree??anybody like me??
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I think that you are only half correct about the music... There is alot of total crap out there. Both in full-on and dark scenes of psytrance... But, some of the artists out there are making better music than ever before... Far more psychedelic than any of the old stuff IMO... Try the new Derango album, check out the Procs album that is coming up... These are just a few examples too, there is a long list of producers that continue to push the boundaries of music further and further and the music they are making is true psychedlia... Everything else doesn't matter to me... |
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 20:33
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dear, Evil Fucker. Reason was the tool but mastering done by Pro Tools and equipment, if you search thru the internet you may find what Pro Tools means and who work with it and where.
We getting away from the thread's subject.
You just fail to get that all music become copy-paste or fakes since most of things been already done. This is not psytrance deal, it is global. Within psytrance you still can find good and creative releases, just see new Ticon, new Derango, new Jaia and all other things that being recommended on this forum. Just look better more quantity means you need to search better. On other hand, there is almost no Goa artists or spirit, so if you seek that feeling nor music just stick to some freak group, since psytrance is not Goa and Goa as ou understand it won't come back. Hippie days over for psytrance, find new genre or some real underground genre, cut off the hair and dress black.
offthenutboom: i do the same thing as you do, ijust show the opposite side which doesn't mean i fully agree with it.
cheers.
"there once was a lesbian from Cancun
who took a young man up to her room
where there argued all night as to who had the right
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 16, 2005 08:59
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A second thought, Ganjagil, even though your intentions are surely good and i agree with you on most of the things you said I started to think about this issue also from another point of view. This doesn't concern music, in my opinion anyone has right to make music if they feel like it, we can always vote by not listening to it.
The thing I was thinking concerns the lack of spirituality in the scene and parties, which of course is a pity, but then again, do we have a right to judge people who just come to parties to have fun, enjoy the atmosphere, dance, drop whatever down their throats etc. without thinking the spiritual roots of psychedelic trance. I don't think we can judge them, they have a right to behave in such manner if they do not harm anyone else.
I know this sounds a bit controversial, but if I remember right one of the early elements of psytrance scene was tolerance and come as you are thinking.
I still wish spirituality would have bigger part in parties and scene, but what to do, what would be the solution? Is delivering the message of PLUR enough, it doesn't seem to go through to everyone, or should there be different gatherings for people who still praise the spirituality? This is not necessarily good either, but please people, give these things a thought or two and maybe we will come up with an answer. |
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