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ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:02
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Hi there i have been on a long trip from which i learnt how much trance is lost and how much more people came and took this scene and made a comedy out of it. It's a circus which i cannot beleive how from spiritual you can go so down and going to a trance party like going to a house party with all ego's up and lots of coke extacy and lollipops. You know even here on Isratrance there is no such topic as taking seriously what music and Halucingenic drugs take you or even a topic that regards the real feeling of trance. it is sick that people keep on calling this music trance, in fact i cannot say that i like trance anymore cause in reality i do not. I do not like full on and i do not like dark scene either so now all i love is the chill out...Trance today is in the chillout for me there is the real voyage in the music....anybody agree??anybody like me??
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:05
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Thank god your back ganjagil.  And I agree 100%
(see my signature, and see my threads that always gets locked.)
-psytones
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ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:15
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Hye man long time it's nice to catch with nice people 
The scene is a big farse with dj's and live acts of really crappy music but let's pretend it's trance cause man the quality is good. What the???? Quality i like a lot but man music is feeling, trance is voyage were is this nowadays??? it's nowere this is the plain reality...i have not experienced a great trance feeling for a long time and i am sure that this was taken from us, and trance people are not the same anymore! how can we live without the energy man???? It's crazy!!
Bom
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:20
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The fact is cruel, but the solution is realy easy. Stop waisting energie on bad vibes, bad music and bad thoughts. And just listen to the music you like. Ignore the fact that this scene is getting big and unpersonal. Just drown your self in "old" (or new) goodies. I bet theres still aklot of good psy that you havent discovered. Why look to the future, when you can look at the past. Especially when the past is present in the future.
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:24
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Psytrance is drug music not trance as it's definition is. I agree that Goa and Chillout are more trance than psytrance or trance in general these days. Crowd is also are chemical addicts and not trancers.
This is what i think!
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ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:42
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you know trance is not old you can keep listening to it forever but the thing is that new trance brings new energy and we need that also old + new make a special trip...i am sick of playing and listening to old tunes i need new, we need more producers on this level please, not all the fricken same!
Bom
Ganja
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:42
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On 2005-11-11 12:24, Willy Wonka wrote:
This is what i think!
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And this is where your right. Psytrance isnt about chemical dirty filthy brain damagin drugs. Its about psychedelic substances ... bla bla drgs bla bla drgs bla bla.. you know.
*i'll shut up now before someone flames me for promoting plants* 
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Nathan
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:42
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Trance is not drug music to totally everyone, and for sure not for me. I don't need this. ppl are 'free' to use what ever they need. I simple do not need drugs. The music is more than enough.
The music is bad today? Just dig deeper and u will find
the gold.
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:45
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Well Nathan, you might not, or you might agree. But the bad psy is because of people not using drgs, or people using wrong drgs. You know. the truth is harsh, and most people will denie it. And you dont need it? Have you ever. ... umm.. sorry, i'll stop now.
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:45
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I think the problem is not only with the music itself, but the people who call theirselves "trance lovers" or PLUR.
ganjagil, you were in Brazil, most people here say they're PLUR, but they behave in the opposite way of their words.
I like full on, I like some dark stuff too, I like chill out a lot, I like good proggy (which now the "wise Brazilian psy gurus call 'Porn hi-tech',  ). I feel the same good feeling when listening to all these different styles.
However I rarely go to parties here, the vibe is just terrible, as I already said a thousand times, the parties look like shopping centers, most people are there for drugs, no one buy the music they claim to love.
This year I went only to 1 party (except for the small private parties I made myself).
Don't blame the music. There are good music in all styles. The problem is that the parties is not a cellebration of the music itself, it's not sharing good feeling and smiles, it's about something else.
So let's keep our good attitute, let's respect the music, let's keep working to make our own underground stuff, let's get back to our small, wonderful and selfless cellebration of the music.
Respect!
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:49
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Pluss, it's only so natural that psytrance will become like it is, and worse for that matter. Psytrance has had a good 15-20 (or less) years beeing "real". Most genres dont last that long. What else would one expect? it's natural evolution. So stop complaining and do as Nathen said, "Dig deeper"
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Acidhive
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:58
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On 2005-11-11 12:45, Kire-naj wrote:
Well Nathan, you might not, or you might agree. But the bad psy is because of people not using drgs, or people using wrong drgs. You know. the truth is harsh, and most people will denie it. And you dont need it? Have you ever. ... umm.. sorry, i'll stop now.
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So you blame 'bad psytrance' on producers who don't take drugs? Wow, I thought I'd heard it all... but this takes the cake. The drugs must have fried your brain more than you think. Maybe you should visit a doctor sometime, then get locked in an asylum with no internet privileges, do us all a favor
And if I'm not mistaken you're again turning this topic into a drug-promo, while the moderator has forbidden you that very same thing. "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Nathan
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 12:58
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On 2005-11-11 12:45, Kire-naj wrote:
And you dont need it? Have you ever. ... umm.. sorry, i'll stop now.
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I not broken. so why I have to fix my self?
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 13:15
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ok? ... 
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On 2005-11-11 12:58, Acidhive wrote:
So you blame 'bad psytrance' on producers who don't take drugs? Wow, I thought I'd heard it all... but this takes the cake.
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.. Acctually, I blame some of it on that fact. And one good example is Isreal and it's psydance producers containing mostly kids who eighter dont have any drg experience, or they use the wrong kind. (no offence, just an example that people can agree with)- What kind of cake are you baking?
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The drugs must have fried your brain more than you think. Maybe you should visit a doctor sometime, then get locked in an asylum with no internet privileges, do us all a favor
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Saved by your " " .. Once again, I would love to meet you in reality. I bet your a yolly good geek. oh..
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And if I'm not mistaken you're again turning this topic into a drug-promo, while the moderator has forbidden you that very same thing.
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Sue me.
.. What is this Acidhive. Am I your new target of anger and stupidety? - Am I the only one "promoting" drugs? Why does it bother you so much? Are you trying to become a moderator? *Power to the one who doesnt want it I say*
And if you read my post again, you will see that I have some self irony, proberly alot more then others. And it's healthy. You should try it once.
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On 2005-11-11 12:45, Kire-naj wrote:
And you dont need it? Have you ever. ... umm.. sorry, i'll stop now.
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I not broken. so why I have to fix my self?
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hmmm..? I think we missunderstood eachother here, i dont get your reply. And I guess I didnt make my self clear, which I can blame on my fried brain of massive drugusage. 
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 11, 2005 13:19
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On 2005-11-11 12:58, Acidhive wrote:
So you blame 'bad psytrance' on producers who don't take drugs? Wow, I thought I'd heard it all...
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Nahh, I mostly blame the new trance generation, for bringing substances like XTC, cocaine and speed into our scene (making them the most consumed form of drugs at most parties), which has resulted in the shitty music that we have today, because people consuming the latter mentioned drugs aren’t interested in innovation, they are satisfied with continuity.
You know what my brother? I also blame YOU and people like you. People like you who want psytrance to be exclusively about music, YOU are one of the reasons that our scene has turned into the house scene. The more we move away from the core values of our scene (which were psychedelic and spiritual), the more shitty music you and I will have to listen to, the more shitty XTC you and I will see at festivals and parties.
You know what’s ironic? Basically you and I want the same thing. We are just too blind to see it.
PS. It’s well documented that psychedelics increase one’s creativity, so naturally the music would improve if more artists experimented with the right kind of NATURAL medicines (psychedelics if you wish).
Lovely seeing you again GANJA. , we’ve missed you.
"Love is a way of life"
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