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Posted : Oct 5, 2010 18:49
spiritual is oberservation..a plastic cup can be spiritual, if you understand the elements its made up of..if you understand processes dive into them even Lady Gaga songs can give a spiritual experiece..
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Posted : Oct 6, 2010 17:10
Personal religion.
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Posted : Oct 6, 2010 23:40
that fraction of a second right after you expereince an orgasm-thats spiritual everything disappears and you become one with the release and that moment u say aaaaaaaaaaahmmmmm its actually OM
AAAUUUMMMMMMM
thats true spirituality
orgasm is not necessary sexual it can be
after u take piss or ur relieved of pain or have eaten something really tasty ummmmm
its all OMMMM
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 04:07
You nailed it, Swami!
Spirituality must be mostly about well functioning genitourinary system.
I need to tell my urologist friend that he is actually a High Priest of the Xolvexs Order.
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 10:17
please make your contribution to JMC
thank you
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 03:26
Very nice clip,right on to the core of what spirituality is about,trying to merge with,to become and understand what it is that notices that i am,the unpersonal watching,the looking itself not what looks.
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Another interesting clip
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If i would try to describe spirituality with pictures here is some i would use:
I have choosen the "mandala" theme because i think the symbol itself symbolizes the core of what this is about,which is the synchronization and singularity of all that is,that the thing that is looking is the same thing as what is seen.Everything is feathers from the same bird. It can be really easy to say it,"all is one" ,yes,and then what? Well, "all is one" is only pointing towards something,it is when you experience what the words are pointing towards the whole thing begin.It is the entrance to what this is about.Then words cant describe more.
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If i would use words,i would say this.
What is a word,a word is a pointer.It is pointing towards something.But everyone experience the essence of the pointer in different ways,since they have different associations with the word.So therefore words (pointers) will be experienced and have different meaning to different people since all have different associations with the word.
Ask a indian 1000 years ago,a man from the stone age,newton,your neighbor,a monk,the first person you meet at the street and yourself ,and you will get different answers.They will think about what they have been taught to associate with the word.One will talk about jesus and angels,another about buddha,the third about aztec gods and the fourth about healing crystals,yoga and meditation and the fifth about superstition and stupidity.
How can a pointer (words) truly explain the true reality and core of everything ?,it cant,it can only point towards something.Be a guide,but it is oneself who has to travel,it can be a shovel,but you have to dig.
How can the core of spirituality be explained by a pointer? It is impossible.It can only be pointed at.The true spirituality has to be lived,it is the living presence,not a state or a special moode.It is the looking itself,the thing that notices that you are,the emptiness,the nothing,that still is something.
If we look at what the internet says when typing define:spirituality in google some of what comes up says:
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Spirituality can refer to an ultimate reality or transcendent dimension of the world; an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his or her being, or the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.” . ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
# spiritual - religious: concerned with sacred matters or religion or the church; "religious texts"; "a member of a religious order"; "lords temporal and spiritual"; "spiritual leaders"; "spiritual songs"
# spiritual - concerned with or affecting the spirit or soul; "a spiritual approach to life"; "spiritual fulfillment"; "spiritual values"; "unearthly love"
# spiritual - lacking material body or form or substance; "spiritual beings"; "the vital transcendental soul belonging to the spiritual realm"-Lewis Mumford
# spiritual - a kind of religious song originated by Blacks in the southern United States
# spiritual - apparitional: resembling or characteristic of a phantom; "a ghostly face at the window"; "a phantasmal presence in the room"; "spectral emanations"; "spiritual tappings at a seance"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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Based on that notice we can say that spirituality tries to explain "an ultimate reality or transcendent dimension of the world".Which is what science also tries to.Basically,what am i,were am i ,what is this.In reality we have no clue,we think that someone else knows,some old enlightened master or some science guy with long white beard knows this,infact they dont.
We all have a species lense that colours everything we see and can think,just as other animals has other lenses.But it has limitations,it is not objective it is subjective and therefore it is not truly real,it is a specific angle,a specific way of perceiving.We can only experience the reality through this kind of lense,which is the human version.Change lense and everything else change.The lense creates a perception illusion.Look through a green lense and what you see is green ,look through a blue lense and what you see is blue.Look though another lense then what a human looks thrugh and everything change.Therefore what we know is only what this lense allows us to understand,think and experience.Our lense has limitions just as a computer,or some kind of instrument,binoculars etc.
Then one can ask what is looking through all lenses.
No human can ever explain it so it gives you total satisfaction,there is no formula or sentence that will satisfy your deepest yearning for understanding what you and everything else really , really are,all they can do is to point towards something,there will still be that questioning and wondering about what i am and what all is.Some can be at different stages of merging,becoming and understanding what notices that i am and what is looking at the core behind all the personal values and ideas.That is all.The truth cant be explained,it can only be lived,be experienced,Words can only point,you yourself have to go were they point.
In reality what we call reality is a perception game made by our ourselfes.Then spirituality ask,what is the core of the game,who is the inventor,what holds everything togheter? who is controlling the game and who is experiencing it.The answer is ,it is you.The real you.Not your illusion self,which is what you see in the mirror everyday and the vocal sound other humans make when they refer to you (your name) etc.
Spirituality is to recognise yourself in everything,when you look into a couple of eyes you are looking into your own eyes,it`s just another pair.The experience and the experiencer is the same thing.I am looking at myself.
Nothing can be if not something watches it,everything becomes something when someone is looking at it.Without the watcher there is nothing.Without the looking there is nothing to be seen.
When people are "awakening" ,they are not the ones being awakened,a person never get`s enlightened.The awakening itself is what wakens up.You dont become aware of something larger,the thing that is larger becomes aware of you.
Spirituality is the looking itself.Spirituality is not old books ,mystical experiences ,special kinds of moods, etc.They are all modifications of what already is there or in best cases good pointers. Spirituality is the living, naked, unmodified presence.
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Posted : Oct 17, 2010 13:09
spirituality is a waste of time because the only truth in life is that we die.
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
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On 2010-10-17 13:09, V3NOM wrote:
spirituality is a waste of time because the only truth in life is that we die.
Yes , we all die,it can feel quite hard to melt when one really think about it,but when one thinks about it.What it does mean,that one dies.Then one can ask oneself ,who and what am i really that disappear and what is it that keeps on experiencing after that i am dead.Even though my eyes are being closed,another couple of eyes are opened,what keeps on looking after i stop looking.And what is the difference between them.
But of course,some dont have the need or inner "urge" to speak,write,think etc about "spirituality",and then there is those who has that need.So it all depends.
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