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What is Live? What isn't? - a point of honor?

dreadieg
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 18:42
i had to recently decide that making studio tracks was very unimportant to me.

now, i can rip out a live psy set in a heartbeat. but as for actual tracks, i don't even have one.
my live performances are based around a kick and a bassline i have prepared, and i throw in live loops as i go from patches that i've spent hours on.

every now and then i'll get some other parts of the song ready, but generally, i'll just have my dance basics, kick and bass and samples. the rest is normally on the fly.

i don't like sitting in front of a computer all day, i like to play music. i'm a musician, not a composer, i like to fiddle my insturments. i think you get a better feel for the music and the flow of the party that way.

of course, this is why i have no album, no songs, and nothing to show for my time except 1 long sets of my jamming. so yeah, i got nothing....
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 18:52
Just record the jamming, split that into 10 different parts and voila...you gots an album innit.           
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts
Mind-Trippin


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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 19:04
I would love to hear from Colin OOOD how they make the live performance on the aLive album...

and my opinion about this is with Elad - use everything u can use on stage and do what u can. technology is our friend.
Gaiana


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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 19:46
Btw, dont get me wrong, i'm not saying that we shouldn't even try to perform live.
Quite the contrary, i've worked on projects for many years whose aim was mainly to create tracks completely live, in the spur of the moment. Allthough, it was a chillout project, so there was much more room for experimentation etc.

It involved a 4 man setup, each running fully independent yet interconnected workstations, all syncing to a single master clock.

3 workstations centered around a computer, all interconnected through midi-over-lan , running cubase and ableton, controlling hardware & software.

1 workstation was synced drumcomputers, clocked synths/arpegiators and sequencer, really oldschool sync-24 & cv/gate stuff.

We used an alesis mmt8 as the master, everything synced to it. Its really nice and simple, with a very solid and stable clock.

All audio was routed from smaller mixers at each workstation into the main mixing console, so everyone could tweak sounds, prelisten on headphones and then send to the main mix on the main console. Sounds were sorted grouped and routed so the main console would have bass, leads, percussion, pads, fx etc sections, each with eq & compressors/limiters set.

Most memorable performance was during an earthdance in amsterdam, 5 hour live set, fully improvised.
With some funny slip-ups.. like a grungy old RSF analogue synth module with an iffy volume knob.. which was being sent to a huge eventide reverb.. which resulted in an incredibly loud noise explosion as the volume knob was fiddled and went to max volume.. thank god for limiters :S
I literally saw people jump, but it was a fun moment

The concept of what we were trying to do: http://www.psytrance.org/electronicdreamplant/main.html

Yet, the only thing i have from that time is massive amounts of recordings, pictures and fond memories. No finished albums or released tracks. Though, i still sometimes sift through the recordings and cut a snippet here and there to use as a sample in tracks i make today.
          www.myspace.com/gaiana_25
Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 19:53
Quote:

On 2009-04-03 18:02, Gaiana wrote:
Connection and communication dont always require watching and attention.

Through dancing on someones tunes i connect deeper with them then just standing around watching them twiddle knobs.



Point taken, but as a performing artist, eye contact and a nod of acknowledgement can be worth more energy to the performer than a crowd of a thousand dancers.
Gaiana


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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 19:57
Quote:

On 2009-04-03 19:53, Axis Mundi wrote:

Point taken, but as a performing artist, eye contact and a nod of acknowledgement can be worth more energy to the performer than a crowd of a thousand dancers.




True           www.myspace.com/gaiana_25
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 6, 2009 16:51
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On 2009-04-03 19:04, Mind-Trippin wrote:
I would love to hear from Colin OOOD how they make the live performance on the aLive album...


Back in those days we used to take the whole studio on stage - if you have the aLIVE download you'll also have the list of equipment we used. We would alternate between playing tracks off DAT (jamming a few extra sounds on top) and tracks 100% sequenced from Cubase running on a 40MHz 386 PC. No audio recording, 100% MIDI, with the analog synths being triggered by a couple of Kenton Pro2 MIDI/CV converters. During the DAT tracks we'd set the studio up for the next live track, programming all the synths for the right sounds and setting the mixer up, and during the live tracks we'd tweak the fuck out of the synths and I'd mix them and add live delay dubs. There were 3 of us back then; Steve and Nigel had keyboard stands with synths and modules stacked up which they would tweak as the computer played them, and Nigel especially would go apeshit with the EMS Synthi and the Mutator - to the extent that sometimes (if he was drunk that night) I just had to turn his channels off! Occasionally the wrong knob would be tweaked and eg. the 303 would suddenly go out of tune (happens a couple of times on aLIVE) or someone would nudge my elbow halfway through a dub and the feedback would get a little out of hand (actually, that happened on stage this weekend in Moscow, so nothing really changes!) but hey, that's live electronic music for you

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