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What is "drive" in a track and how to achieve it?

aciduss
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 19:31:33
?

(i don't mean distortion)
Deranger
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 19:51
listen to a track you like,something that makes you feel the "drive" you're talking about,and listen carefully..
eole


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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 20:34
i understand it as a track who seems to be faster than his real speed... right?
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 20:41
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On 2008-12-01 19:31:33, aciduss wrote:
?

(i don't mean distortion)



layer multiple closed hihats, play with their velocities and position (they are not supposed to be completely quantized), also the same with the bassline.
big fat kicks tender to make things sound slower, use shorter kicks (with maybe a little bit of delay) and shorter basslines, and also play with velocities of the bassline.           http://myspace.com/voxproject
XuN
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Posted : Dec 1, 2008 22:09
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On 2008-12-01 19:51, Deranger wrote:
listen to a track you like,something that makes you feel the "drive" you're talking about,and listen carefully..



+1
Try listening to some popular pop, rock, classic... Find out what makes the tracks "drive" or "flow"           www.xun.dk / myspace.com/xundk
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psyaudionamics
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 01:26
also no stated here, it helps at times to automate the tempo a tad in climax moments, speed it up a bit...
drop the elements and then bring a swoosh, stab, hit wateva u want then throw the elements back on, part of the drive is playing with the arrangement, and a couple more tricks mentioned already here such a fucken around with the velocities, the hi hats and snares really are more respondsible in the drive the kick is just the base, but yet again maybe some efx on the kick might create some sort of drive aswell, but the important aspect in my opinion on creating drive is all for the most part ur arrangement

grab a couple of tracks u really like 2-3 and analize em to the T, learn every element in the track how they remove and how and where they are brought back, arrangement is the most important aspect in drive, cheers n good luck .... LET THE FLOW BE WITH YOU
Upavas
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 10:25
It's all about groove!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 11:10
white noize in -70DB lol.



sometimes i highly suspect that.
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Medea
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 11:21
drive, groove.... Is that something that makes people dancing? )

imho it's very subjective and hard to analyze. More about feeling...
Listening to music in special states of mind can help to catch it sometimes, to remeber, and then try to reproduce what you fell, in sober state already

However, i think it's all about rhythm + sound-design (very abstract, yes, but that's it).
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vegetal
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 11:37
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On 2008-12-01 22:09, XuN wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-12-01 19:51, Deranger wrote:
listen to a track you like,something that makes you feel the "drive" you're talking about,and listen carefully..



+1
Try listening to some popular pop, rock, classic... Find out what makes the tracks "drive" or "flow"



All about the drive




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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 12:04
nice video
i kinda a remake of that one though
all about OVERdrive







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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 22:46
Thank you all for your comments. Specially> psyaudionamics .

For the last 2 posts>
I dont enjoy that kind of metal, im sorry but, although im thankful for the examples, i don't find the "drive" in those videos :S A mater of taste i guess.

I know this is something subjetive and hard to analyze i just wanted to know if i had the right concept in mind.

thx again
psyaudionamics
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Posted : Dec 2, 2008 23:28
Ur welcome Aciduss, glad i could help...
Upavas
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Posted : Dec 3, 2008 01:03
Groove + tension buildup = Drive

          Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
Nectarios
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Posted : Dec 3, 2008 02:27
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On 2008-12-03 01:03, Upavas wrote:
Groove + tension buildup = Drive





Well put!           
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