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what is dark psy

kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 16:03
Most people in the psy scene have already fought with these deamons/archons/watchers so they use the music as an escape from that.

Why would you want to put a hateful image/scene in someones mind while their under the influence?

As Kri said that should be a personal thing.           
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Moksa
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 17:41
Artists like Prana, Sandman, Hallucinogen et all had nothing to do with screaming babies, chainsaws or confronting your fears. Many people have had life changing, transformative experiences at trance gatherings having nothing to do with confronting your darkest fears AND having a great time in the process. The world needs more love and positivity, not fear.

Bring on the good times!
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Moksa
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 17:52
...and of course this is just my opinion and to add to the discussion. i never really jump into these types of discussions because as Uhm said, everyone has their own opinion and are entitled to that

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Maine Coon
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 20:58
I believe in balance. Keep yourself on a steady diet of horror movies and you’ll become a lump of coal. Confine yourself to romantic comedies and you’ll become a marshmallow. The same with music. Listening to “glorious morning full on” all the time will make you shallow, but there are times for that music (psy purists can start yielling “boo” now ). Listening to darkpsy around the clock will either dull your senses or make you antisocial, but there is a time and a place for “facing your fears” and whatsnot. Choosing only one extreme and forgetting about other shades will only rob you of valuable experiences.

These constant arguments about horror vs. cheese are silly at best. Aside from the fact that there is the whole spectrum of psy music between these two extremes, a balanced person would need both in some doses. Just like an ecosystem needs variety of species. Just like evolution needs variety of individual traits. Anywhere you look, diversity is a key element of balanced life and natural progress. One-sided enforcement of any life style, however rational its justification may seem, leads only to stagnation and unhappiness.
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 21:19
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On 2010-10-02 16:03, kameleonpangea36 wrote:
Most people in the psy scene have already fought with these deamons/archons/watchers so they use the music as an escape from that.

Why would you want to put a hateful image/scene in someones mind while their under the influence?

As Kri said that should be a personal thing.




Are you serious? Really?





          


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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 02:30
This is purely my personal opinion and I make no claims otherwise - I see psy music that intentionally tries to freak you out with horror samples and connotations of death destruction and terror to be completely infantile and fucking boring at best, potentially hazardous to certain people in certain states at worst. There are so many better themes for the altered mind than those things. The absolute last thing I want to hear when I'm dancing/trancing is some douchebag intentionally trying to freak me out with some cheesy horror sample.

There is something to be said for dragging someone out of their comfort zone with music that is intentionally atonal or discombobulating, or haunting and mysterious etc - but to my ears/mind the 'horror/evil' kind of dark psy is just as cheesy as the worst morning full on but in the oppposite direction - it also doesn't take me anywhere, it doesn't show me anything interesting, and it completely turns off my trance state.

Music doesn't make people confront their fears, music doesn't make people have spiritual experiences, PEOPLE confront their fears and have spiritual experiences, and sometimes use music as a tool to get there. It is up to them to do that work.

The evil/horror stuff seems to be trying too hard, or to just have a complete opposite intention of what I think of when I think of a trance experience
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Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 03:21
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On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
Deep-Fryer
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 07:31
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On 2010-10-03 03:21, Shiranui wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.




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FattyAcid
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 08:09
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really?

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krisamadhi
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 16:20






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mubali
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 19:15
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On 2010-10-03 03:21, Shiranui wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics

Quantum physics also talks about the relationship of energies and the concept that matter is just densely packed forms of energy. So, before you disregard something as high hippie horseshit, maybe YOU should check to see if there is some truth in it.

My last point, you've gone to parties and experienced the "vibe" at a party, how can you deny that whatever senses that are taking input are not communicating a similar general feeling toward people. I was a social psych major in school and the whole group experience concept is what brought me to the electronic dance culture back in 1998. There is enough interest in those concepts that you say aren't proven for others to become interested in and perform some interesting social experiments with as well. I don't get what your issue is dude, but you really should do some homework before slinging Haterade.
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mentalcandy
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 20:04
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On 2010-10-03 03:21, Shiranui wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.



what ever needs to be said has already been said whatever needs to be understood has already been understood........... MR shiranaui you can keep your smart ass comments to your self and stop dissing a good buddy of mine, and if you want to measure them come to a party with us, in the deep night time well show you how to measure them D muhahahahaha .........and its just muzik guys..... dark or not should be psychedelic for sure.......... over and out bom
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 21:22
hey guys if you REALLY wanna know WHAT IS DARK PSY?????? just come to Goa Gil Metaphysidelica 2010 Birthday Bashash. All info can be found here: http://www.quasartrance.com/gil-birthday/

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1. WHAT is dark psy????
2. WHERE can we find it?
3. WHAT does it do (to you)?
4. WHO is responsible?

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ohmy
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Posted : Oct 4, 2010 00:46
Quote:

On 2010-10-03 03:21, Shiranui wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.



wow, you don't believe in sound affecting people? and you dj? interesting.... that is cause for scientific study too
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Dragon

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Posted : Oct 4, 2010 03:47
Quote:

On 2010-10-03 03:21, Shiranui wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-09-30 18:13, DJ Uhm wrote:
Its not rocket science to understand that frequencies have an affect over us, and that energy is transferred all the time.

It's not any kind of science at all. It's new age pseudoscience bullshit.

Measure these "energies" with some sort of equipment and write a study on it, get it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal, then come back to me.

Otherwise STFU and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.



way off target man .. Frequencies have profound effects on us           New Album : Spirals of Time : Now Available !
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