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What is commercical trance music for U ?
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olivier
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Posted : Nov 3, 2002 16:33
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actually , i like gms, and i don't think they produce music for money ,i was actually thinkin' about astral projection....  |
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Nov 3, 2002 18:34
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stuff like gms, astrix, infected but i don't say that its bad. the music is the only thing that is important to me
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 3, 2002 20:24
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I'll consider commercial as a genre and not as a cause.
Well, I like commercial. I like club trance, and I like cheesy trance. Only 1 thing about it: make it melodic. If I want a boring repetitive beat, underground does it much better than commercial.
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 4, 2002 00:26
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If GMS, infected mushroom, astral projection, alien project, Astrix etc... are commercial, so bamboo forest, human blue, skazi, raja ram and even hallucinogen and Goa Gil are commercial too... They all have already played together...
I think we first need to define what makes a song or a producer commercial.
To me commercial sounds like "the easy digestible sounds", the songs that you did not have to have a background to understand or feel almost everything the music brings. In this sense Hallucinogen surely isn't commercial.
Good Jazz isn't commercial...
Commercial also may means conventional... In this sense GMS is commercial. But I like GMS...
Inside the universe of commercial psytrance there are lots of good songs...
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...Be gentle with the earth...
...Dance like nobody's watching...
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maka
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Posted : Nov 4, 2002 13:30
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It seems that everybody realy succesful is categorized commercial ???
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Wako Jako
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Posted : Nov 4, 2002 13:35
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i tought about this thing some more and let me correct myself.
psytrance is not commercial.
never was.
probably never will be...
its a some what underground music genre and as is, it cant be commercial.
and its not.
imo.
[ This Message was edited by: Wako Jako on 2002-11-04 15:36 ] SMILE ! and the whole world will smile right back at you ! |
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journey
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Posted : Nov 4, 2002 14:04
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It's difficult to say what is commercial, many different people like sphongle does that make sphongle commercial ?
If many people from different backgrounds can listen to the same music does that make it commercial ?
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Gumbo
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Posted : Nov 4, 2002 15:29
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i'm with you wako! psytrance is an underground scene! not everyone can conect to this tunes. its to crazy for him or to psychedelic. psytrance cant get commercial .
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Dengy
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Posted : Nov 5, 2002 00:08
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astrix
astral projection
and TOOOOOOO many more.
but i gotta hand to those ppl, if it's so commercial they must be doing something right
anyways goodluck to all the ppl who keep trance alive (just as long they dont take all it's juice out and turn it into pop music)!
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 5, 2002 00:17
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after reading what many of you wrote i come to a conclusion , by you ,
Success = Commericalization....
thats what you write, not me,just because GMS ,Infected,Skazi,Astrix and more sell lots of Cd's...
Trance is not commerical just like Wako said...
that is my opinion
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Producing is the work of these guys, what do you want them to do? stop doing that? or produce a track once a month? decide
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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Nov 5, 2002 01:30
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Commercial (adjective):
1. Involved in work that is intended for the mass market: a commercial artist.
2. Having profit as a chief aim: a commercial book, not a scholarly tome.
3. Sponsored by an advertiser or supported by advertising: commercial television
Why this thread is ridiculous: The genre that we love so much, psy trance, is not intended for the mass market. It gets no radio or TV play, except for maybe in Israel. Therefore it cannot be defined as commercial.
A successful CD sells around 5000 copies, how much money is made off that? Not enough to call it commercial.
There is to my knowledge, no corporate sponsorship or advertising in the mass media.
In this genre, if you are making money then you must be doing something right. But, if you aren't making money, then you aren't neccessarily doing something wrong.
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Posted : Nov 6, 2002 18:37
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Posted : Nov 6, 2002 18:58
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I agree with Wako Jako and Apocalypse Now:
Psytrance (which is very different from "trance") is not commercial (yet). But maybe someday it will be, just like techno and "trance" weren't commercial one day (long ago)... But there will always be an underground scene.
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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Highdude
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Posted : Nov 6, 2002 21:07
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I think that everyone is commercialised at the end  but for my opinion when you take a band like infected and rejoined them with someone like barry saharof (well this what they have done) than for my opinion they passed the line . "give me a brake" he is not by any form relate to trance and its nice to share and perform together but not when you come from a totaly different place.
I have nothing against barry but lets face it, they did it and for me they won.
After being to eilat and saw them both i realy dont feel like hearing them for a while even though i like their music.
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journey
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Posted : Nov 18, 2002 17:40
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Well that's why some move over to world music or tech-house |
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