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what genre would you call this?

organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 04:59
not to break rules, but i was hoping you all might have some insight on what genre my track would be best suited for

http://www.organicparadox.com/private/organicparadox-internal_rotation_128kbps.mp3

i hope that it is good enough to release but would love feedback and maybe some guidance on labels that might be interested in it.

any advice/critique/support would be greatly appreciated

blink           www.organicparadox.com

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OIL
Oil

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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 14:07
Really good work man.
amazing work i say.
i really like it.

I think its somewhere between dub and psytrance downtempo...

Mike A
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 14:32
downtempo? dub? where?

This is killer madness psytrance
The intro is a bit much too long, try to seprate it into 2 tracks.
The track itself, although the sound production ain't best, is very good - I enjoyed listening to it.
I think you got too much treble here, and you can't hear any of the mid cause of it.
CLAW
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 14:41
Quote:

On 2004-02-09 14:32, Mike A wrote:
I think you got too much treble here, and you can't hear any of the mid cause of it.



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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 10, 2004 14:45
thank you all so much for the honest feedback and solid critique. its so hard to look at your own music the way you do, and it helps me alot, when trying to raise the level of quality in my work.

so basically, the composition is not really quality enough to release, or the sound quality itself is still not quite there? granted, i tried to master it myself, and will have to calm down the treble a bit in another mastering job if it were seriously sent out to labels.

thankful for any feedback i can get.           www.organicparadox.com

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Trip-
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Posted : Feb 10, 2004 15:02
the high end is screaming.
also the high mid freqs... those are the worst screamers in any track. take care of that

the intro is abuot 4:30 mins.... pretty much lots
I don't hear any dub here though.

the tune really starts on 7:20...
and ends on 10 mins
I would at least make the trance part of it either longer or just end it with it. Not doing that slow ending that started the whole thing from the begining.

pay attention to the low mid. it's missing - give precense to the leads. they are very low cut. It's hard to hear the melody like this. or anything for that matter.

nice idea - but needs better presentation.


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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 11, 2004 05:03
good on ya Trip;),

the levels do need a bit of work, but in general, the areas that you mentioned, sound like that due to the mastering job i did on this before sending it out for review. basic excitation, 4 band harmonzier, and a touch of stereo spread. unfortunately in doing that, alot of my freq's became over saturated. i'll have to tone it down some......

no labels would really touch my style of music really. its full on enough to be good in the peak of the track, but i don't care for making cookie cutter trance anymore. storytelling is the real joy of my music making now i guess. then agian, i am getting old, and probably just getting senile in my old age;)

thank you all for the feedback. love this web community           www.organicparadox.com

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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 13, 2004 00:54
http://www.organicparadox.com/private/organicparadox-internal_rotation_edit192kbps.mp3

think i pretty much have it fixed. any replies helpful           www.organicparadox.com

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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 14, 2004 04:38
ahh no more ears to give my track a listen?
          www.organicparadox.com

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CLAW
CLAW

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Posted : Feb 14, 2004 11:19
Ok, I can see that u made lots of defferences in the track... U cut off the long intro and made it a shorter one; that is nice... I love the intro as it is, kinda gives u the impression of something huge is coming, is like on of those intros that say "be prepaired""...

I dont know if is the sound system in here, but there are a few high frequencies still need to be volumed down... Maybe Im wrong...
Another point is, that on about 3:10, u could made it sound like the main body of the track just entered... Maybe add percussions, or a small boost to your bassline... I dont know...

But yeah, over all u got your self a track, difficult to place it under any genre, it has lots of elements from many places...

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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 14, 2004 11:32
thanks alot for all that chp,

really good to get a nice solid critique every once and a while. you always deliver. i can sense that something is still missing from my sound. some kind of intensity and clarity that just isn't coming through. don't know if its my lack of mastering or the production itself. there are a few places where the highs go over the top. never fear, this is just another learning step for me, and i hope the next one blows this out of the water;)

cheers man,

blink/organicparadox           www.organicparadox.com

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Te_nTe
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Posted : Feb 14, 2004 13:14
i think your problem is right leveling.
till 2:13 and when pad exists there is some kind of disorder in the track.
then comes nice mels but also some kind of sound that block each other.it is better than the beg but anyway.
the highs eq'ed ok , there are seem to be offline - maybe add some reverb or something.
good luck.
-Abatwa-
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Posted : Feb 14, 2004 14:00
Nicey nice. In the start, I think the sounds block the coming of the bassline too much. If you could make the rising of the bassline purer it would be better. Throughout the song, the bassline kinda stays on second plan. till the 3 min mark, it gives the impression that it may rise but after 10-20 sec's, again it is blocked by the melody that is introduced. I also agree with Te_nTe that when the melody comes, there are some other sounds that kinda mess with the melody. maybe cutting the industrial sounds during the melody, or changing them might help. also the ending is quite long I think. But good work.           `Bottomless wonders spring from simple rules, which are repeated without end` Mandelbrot
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