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what does the psychedelic culture means to you
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Maikel Svenson
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 12:42:51
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Hi All
As the title says
I will hear what the culture means to you?
is it a culture that you most wanted for yourselves,
meant in the way is, that you like it to be a subculture and you wanted to continue that way...
How would you feel if it suddenly became mainstream,plays in the radio all the time everyone would make house techno dubstep hip hop electro remix of, for example, Astrix, ace ventura, zen mechanics, and so on?
all kind of people (before not heard psytrance)will show of to all the psy parties??? and so on
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Nectarios
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 12:52
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On 2013-04-25 12:42:51, Maikel Svenson wrote:
How would you feel if it suddenly became mainstream,plays in the radio all the time everyone would make house techno dubstep hip hop electro remix of, for example, Astrix, ace ventura, zen mechanics, and so on?
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This has happened. Major radio stations have played goa trance in the mid '90s. Sheyba - Trance Africa Express was on the national billboard in Greece in 1996 or 1997.
MTV had the late night sessions with clips from Total Eclipse, Transwave and the like.
Paul Oakenfold was making Goa trance mix CDs with brilliant tunes in them...it was more mainstream than it ever was recently.
Dubstep I do not care about, its just another fast rising trend and you have people from the "prog" side of the genre throwing some dubstep in their tunes, which again is of no consequence to me as I don't listen to their music, not attend the parties they are playing.
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dimitrilentryptamine
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 14:52
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i think is one of the most incredible "creations" of human kind, how we have connected sound engineering, trance(not speaking about trance music but higher states of consciousness related to music, from psychoacustics to psychedelic use for reaching trance, maybe it sounds little bit junky style, but it's the way it is, it's easier to have a trance with the help of some substances, or anyway i think it is...) and spirituality, how we connected scientific evolution and ancient culture in the same time, it's alchemical, it's some kind of healing through sounds we'll never hear in nature, driving rythms, percussion and uplifting energy that brings you up and up and fuckin up till' you look inside yourself and meditate, not like the sadhu sitting in silence but like the egyptian tannura dancer, is active meditation(as Gil said), and thanks to all the people that still keep it real!! for the evolution of psy music i wish that there will be less mainstream tunes and more and more psychedelia on the dancefloors, this thing is really killing the psy spirit. i saw lot of big festivals with line ups more on house music than psytrance, and when i stand at the dancefloor of those festivals i really wanna scream fuck that shit, and dream how can be this dancefloor with all those people dancing to real psytrance music, not to kick bass and some electrodumbshit, but hey usually organisers wanna earn money, and is easier to earn money with infected mushroom than with orestis or samadhi, isn't it? so i wish that psychedelia will rise up in the whole human culture, but for this we need more open minds, for now i thank god that we still have some good souls that prefer to share the trance experience instead of making cash on it... |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 16:32
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B-recluse
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 17:00
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yeah i agree psytrance as i know it is pure and spiritual and i'am a old school boy and everything was possible !the atmosphere's on party's amazing . But i still be true on psytrance and do it my way and following a trend is killing your true spirit ! Yeah some smells the big money and go for that ! even a ( don't name the artist ) who made by himselve told me that psytrance was shit ! But once he was total loyal to it ! a pitty for him ( ha,ha )but that's the way it goes gladly i discover good psy on soundcloud and other sources ! its like metal they said in the late 90 metal was dead but there are more metal undergrounds bands then ever before ! So give it time and you will see , we are going back to the roots again ! Namste |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 17:19
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Some very nice thoughts here. I think there's still great music out there, and people that really grasp what this culture is about. But there's way to many events out there, whose organizers are in this only for the money - and they sort of build a public to fit that situation as well. Just think of the two major summer festivals in Portugal (don't need to write the names) and the contrast between the two is very enlightening: one focused in the psychedelic culture, ecology, celebrating the arts not focused on genre, fame or status; while the other is pretty much the opposite - even though there's certainly good music in both. The main difference there is the approach.
I'm glad there's still great people involved and good music coming out every year. Even if we were talking just music, which we're not, since it's so much more, this is one of the oldest styles of Electronic Music out there and still with plenty of oxygen on its lungs to go on and on. Also think mainstream stuff passes quickly, like this trend of dubstep that's everywhere these days - even on commercials, the presets and expansions for new machines, some are thought out to please this new need for distortion sounds, and gritty stuff (just think of the latest Moog, Ultranova, the latest Nord Lead with talk fx and a couple distortions).
There's still a long way to go. I believe thinking of the events as rituals is key to convey a proper experience that lives up to the expectations of a psychedelic culture. And more efforts should be put into that. Organizers should really give this a thought or two. Labels as well. I have the feeling there's a lot of lack of professionalism throughout.
I think this is to big to just pass and most criticism comes from outside people who simply can't even imagine what the trance experience is - it only reflects their unconscious fears, that have been designed by this materialistic culture. We'll certainly grow past that state, there's like a wind reaching out from ancient times that some of us have felt, speaking about a new civilization yet to be born - or maybe that's a heck of a delusional trip, but it's better then conformity, right? |
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Geom3
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Posted : Apr 25, 2013 23:35
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On 2013-04-25 16:32, Babaluma wrote:
thinking for oneself, and questioning authority
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 06:49
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for more than 10 years i had similar point of view like yours.
for me, now this is totally repeatable and boring music. only culture (partys, people) are fine but compared to 90s now this is a small mainstream.
psytrance clothes? what is this like not a mainstream?
people buying clothes to look like real true psytrancer... pffff sorry this is too funny for me.
"i am better than you because im listen gr8 music and you're worse because you listen shitty mainstream"... - this is the spirit of this culture? this is just fuckin vaunt. it has nothing to do with real spirit of psytrance.
sorry for hard words but such kind of talk pisses me off.
from one side people are talks about spirituality, get rid of the ego,freedom etc and from other side this culture is full of ego boost (i am better than you), theres no freedom (you must be like that, and that) and spirituality is finished when acid trip is finished.
spirit of psytrance id dead. now this scene is full of egoistic, selfish ppl. too much HATE and not enough LOVE
ps. ppl who listen to different music, even mainstream are no worse than you. theyre equal
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 07:08
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Babaluma
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 11:34
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 12:02
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On 2013-04-25 12:42:51, Maikel Svenson wrote:
How would you feel if it suddenly became mainstream,plays in the radio all the time everyone would make house techno dubstep hip hop electro remix of, for example, Astrix, ace ventura, zen mechanics, and so on?
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This has happened. Major radio stations have played goa trance in the mid '90s. Sheyba - Trance Africa Express was on the national billboard in Greece in 1996 or 1997.
MTV had the late night sessions with clips from Total Eclipse, Transwave and the like.
Paul Oakenfold was making Goa trance mix CDs with brilliant tunes in them...it was more mainstream than it ever was recently.
Dubstep I do not care about, its just another fast rising trend and you have people from the "prog" side of the genre throwing some dubstep in their tunes, which again is of no consequence to me as I don't listen to their music, not attend the parties they are playing.
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how i see it is that people enjoyed more underground sound..so underground could be more mainstream but wihtout artists selling themself for that.. posford lsd went into the chart here in 95 and twisted album got good success.. and it s not cheesy or commercial.. today it s just not possible something like that here.. |
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 12:27
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radio show ect all gone, even one of the bigest radio here add a goa trance show in the night...today it would be like the bigest radio having a forest trance show ..LOL
now we all fucked up by the gouvernement..they control us way more and we have to be perfect.. that not good for the gouvrment there is underground culture so slowy with the years they all fucked us up...now they can t even smoke joints into a indoor party haha and more or less everyhting is legal and controlled.. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 13:47
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Apr 26, 2013 14:24
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I think the spirit has gone...not 100% but a big part of it. even in the music...only some elements reminds you something from psy-goa vibe.
I still enjoy this music especially at festivals. I like the culture and the blend of music that you can hear there, the people are happy and dancing all the time...these are great times for sure...
i dont go at parties for many years now, only in festivals...there i enjoy all the sounds from prog tech, fullon, morning, dark, ambient, experimental all of em....
i dont know maybe because in festival you enjoy the place and smile faces and all of that...
As i said i still enjoy this music but i cant say that this music is pure psy goa or whatever, some tracks have the vibe or some elements that you can travel with em. I just enjoy the good music whatever you can call it. i dont care really...if the music touch me i'm ok!!!
...into the wild.... |
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