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What does son kite have that so many prog artists are missing?

rich
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Posted : Feb 25, 2011 10:05
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On 2011-02-25 04:47, Login wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_zTmsf7Nd0

Close your eyes and float in to space.

100% trance: pads, a groovie bassline, hypnotic, repetitive and overall beautiful.




Please Pavel, post a 'True Dat!' lolpic for the above.

Thanks

Braindrop
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Posted : Feb 25, 2011 10:17
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On 2011-02-23 03:57, A.Rosengren wrote:
The german beatport mafia topping the "psytrance" chart is a fucking joke it hurts my ears when I press the play button, mainly because they are not trying to sound special like people did in the beginning of the 00's.




So effing True! i cant imagine this kind of music is topping the beatport charts! but like howw?? Baffles me, gives the wrong impression about psy-trance for new listeners imo!

On another note, i get goosebumps when i hear this track and see this performance from them
Epic!





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pr0fane
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Posted : Feb 25, 2011 16:30
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On 2011-02-25 10:17, Braindrop wrote:
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On 2011-02-23 03:57, A.Rosengren wrote:
The german beatport mafia topping the "psytrance" chart is a fucking joke it hurts my ears when I press the play button, mainly because they are not trying to sound special like people did in the beginning of the 00's.




So effing True! i cant imagine this kind of music is topping the beatport charts! but like howw?? Baffles me, gives the wrong impression about psy-trance for new listeners imo!

On another note, i get goosebumps when i hear this track and see this performance from them
Epic!










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Posted : Feb 25, 2011 17:41
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On 2011-02-25 10:17, Braindrop wrote:
So effing True! i cant imagine this kind of music is topping the beatport charts! but like howw?? Baffles me, gives the wrong impression about psy-trance for new listeners imo!


How? Because psychedelic scene is mostly commercial nowadays. I've met more then enough trancey people that complain about big scenes in their countries.

Pioneers of this music tried so hard to bring this music to the masses, trying to change their mind with music. Something happened, and this thing happens to every music genre that tried to get through to the the mainstream. Besides, for some music is an art and as such will be appreciated by few. For others it's an industry and those will do whatever is necessary to earn money.

Experimentation is risky, so it's better to produce another "hit" based on tested formulas. It's safer to earn money that way. People differ and most people don't have sophisticated taste.

I still wonder why people don't understand why golden era of anything can't last forever. Everything is a subject of entropy. People are generally lazy and greed. That's why.

The more popular something is the more shallow and boring it is because people attract things that are similar to them. We wanted to upgrade conciousness of others but their state of mind obviously downgraded the quality of our art.
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Posted : Feb 26, 2011 05:31







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Posted : Feb 28, 2011 17:15
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djanahata
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 02:06
It was time ago...
even TICON are today much better
and if we look at Tech Prog style,
most of the artists Are fucking far away
I think that Son Kite is over...           www.myspace.com/djanahata
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goa-ganges
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 04:50
What they have, that others don't?....Hmmm, they have FEELING, INSIGHT, SWING...in short, TALENT.
Yidam
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 09:24
Had been waiting to hear a Son Kite live set ever since that video of the Tokyo performance was released, then got a chance to hear them last year. Not great at all, actually had to check with a few people if it was actually them that were onstage, just sounded so generic.

Minilogue on the other hand is something extremely unique so no doubt these guys have unmatched talent, and are probably one of the few from psytrance to cross borders successfully, just don't feel that the Son Kite project is that special anymore.

Same thing happens with Jaia and Silicon Sound's Even 11 project and Atmos.
aje
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 16:05
Speaking of Son Kite, any of you heard the recent Minilogue remix of Larsson - Find Your Soul?

One of their finest works of late, highly recommended!           Check out my album: http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/gay-satanic-hippie-tiefenrausch
Beat Agency
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 18:27
I think this topic is a bit biased and as many other topics this topic is based on the topic starters personal taste rather than objectivity. Of course taste is taste but as a musician I have to object to the claim that they are superior regarding talent, music style and creativity.

I agree Son Kite was nice music but to go to the extend and claim that no one else can match them is to take things a bit too far.

Talent is a very diverse thing and the point is that "Artist A" is very good at making melodies and by that is labeled very talented (or even unique) by those who love melodies whereas "Artist B" is very good at making dope beats and by that is labeled very talented by those who love those dope beats.

It can all be boiled down to TASTE and by that no one can be objective any longer.

Personally I will never claim that "Artist A" is more talented than "Artist B".
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Posted : Mar 3, 2011 05:16
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On 2011-03-02 18:27, Beat Agency wrote:
I think this topic is a bit biased and as many other topics this topic is based on the topic starters personal taste rather than objectivity. Of course taste is taste but as a musician I have to object to the claim that they are superior regarding talent, music style and creativity.

I agree Son Kite was nice music but to go to the extend and claim that no one else can match them is to take things a bit too far.

Talent is a very diverse thing and the point is that "Artist A" is very good at making melodies and by that is labeled very talented (or even unique) by those who love melodies whereas "Artist B" is very good at making dope beats and by that is labeled very talented by those who love those dope beats.

It can all be boiled down to TASTE and by that no one can be objective any longer.

Personally I will never claim that "Artist A" is more talented than "Artist B".




Its easy man, just pick some really great (Mozart) and then some really no good at all, Skazi.

Mozart is better than Skazi, true fact.


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Beat Agency
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Posted : Mar 3, 2011 05:23
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On 2011-03-03 05:16, Login wrote:
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On 2011-03-02 18:27, Beat Agency wrote:
I think this topic is a bit biased and as many other topics this topic is based on the topic starters personal taste rather than objectivity. Of course taste is taste but as a musician I have to object to the claim that they are superior regarding talent, music style and creativity.

I agree Son Kite was nice music but to go to the extend and claim that no one else can match them is to take things a bit too far.

Talent is a very diverse thing and the point is that "Artist A" is very good at making melodies and by that is labeled very talented (or even unique) by those who love melodies whereas "Artist B" is very good at making dope beats and by that is labeled very talented by those who love those dope beats.

It can all be boiled down to TASTE and by that no one can be objective any longer.

Personally I will never claim that "Artist A" is more talented than "Artist B".




Its easy man, just pick some really great (Mozart) and then some really no good at all, Skazi.

Mozart is better than Skazi, true fact.







True fact in the sense of your and also my taste in music

BUT not a fact in the sense of personal style, talent etc. As much as I dislike Skazi's music he still got talent and his own personal sound.

We tend to think Mozart was a true genius but let's face it. Our interpretation of Being a Genius is also a subject to taste.

Personally I find classical composers such as Haydn, Berlioz and Wagner way more genius and inspiring than Mozart.           www.beatagency.dk
Elad
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Posted : Mar 3, 2011 06:25
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On 2011-03-03 05:16, Login wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-03-02 18:27, Beat Agency wrote:
I think this topic is a bit biased and as many other topics this topic is based on the topic starters personal taste rather than objectivity. Of course taste is taste but as a musician I have to object to the claim that they are superior regarding talent, music style and creativity.

I agree Son Kite was nice music but to go to the extend and claim that no one else can match them is to take things a bit too far.

Talent is a very diverse thing and the point is that "Artist A" is very good at making melodies and by that is labeled very talented (or even unique) by those who love melodies whereas "Artist B" is very good at making dope beats and by that is labeled very talented by those who love those dope beats.

It can all be boiled down to TASTE and by that no one can be objective any longer.

Personally I will never claim that "Artist A" is more talented than "Artist B".




Its easy man, just pick some really great (Mozart) and then some really no good at all, Skazi.

Mozart is better than Skazi, true fact.







try to play in the next party skazi animal and then mozart tell us how the crowd responded
for sure nice test.
i believe they will dance better to skazi.
so , skazi is more talented in making dance music then mozart.
mozart is more talented in making feelings come out throu music

and from here.. to my taste:
i think pure dance music is dumb
mozart i like. sometimes.
and if it has feelings and also danceable , then its allready "dancefloor music" enough for me.
as if people didnt dance before the electronic beat..


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Posted : Mar 10, 2011 00:53
a TC Finalizer, Gold Chanel and Fireworx also helps
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