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what do you think would be the chances..

morph27
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 14:00
of hosting anything like voov, boom etc.. in UK - maybe not a five dayer but what about long weekend - personally i rekon there's about a 5% chance ? i mean what would be the chances of getting permission - people paying etc..
biggins


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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 14:34
hey morph,
well we managed a four dayer in wales this year but obviously it wasn't as big or organised as VOOV or BOOM. In fact it was VERY disorganised but we pulled it off and people went away happy. We got a rig from Holland and DJs from all over the UK and a few people from europe (who npaid there own way over!!), no 'names' (i think) but it was all quality 'psy' running from Saturady night till tuesday when i left the site.
In this country it seems that the 'powers that be' just will not have anything unless it can be seen to be profitable to all sides (i.e. the police, the landowner and the party organisers) . If you can find some land where the owner will say 'yes' then its cool. This is what happened to us but we were VERY lucky. The only other option is to have the outlay to hire the land from some willing land owner but if you are doing free parties then you're probably not going to be up for stumping up so much cash. Even then you aren't out of the woods cos you've got promotions and (i suspect) you have to get the acts to come and play and even that isn't that easy. It seems to me that even if you've got the cash and the site then it can still be tricky to get names to play f you don't have a reputation for sorting it out and coming up with the goods. I guess cos large 'names' have reputations as well. Even if you get all these things right then there is still no guarentee that the police will let you go ahead cos obviously you need a licence to actually hold the party in the first place as well. aaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!
Basically you need to 'network' with people who have land and would be up for it. I reckon.
morph27
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 14:45
hi biggins - hows it going - yeah i played at that party:)hehe - i'm just wondering what people thought if you had a line-up like they got at voama or maybe not as big as boom - would you get interest from people enough to put on a big line -up over a weekend? hhmm.. do you rekon people would travel from europe for a festival in the Uk bearing in mind we are usually travelling over there?
laters:)
morph27
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 18:46
hurahh! Liquid connective -next month - Cosmosis live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
biggins


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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 18:55
yeah i reckon you could get the interest going. As with anything you would need to push it but we found that when we promoted the party that we had to go around censoring posts on other websites!! This is no bad thing but we did get the fear and judging from the number of people we were justified in doing the ad removal.

I think that all that differs really is the line-ups really and you need to work hard for a few years to get the reputation going, thats it really. Get the momentum going and plug it as hard as you can. I have to say though that as i haven't actually seen the line-ups for voama or boom my statements should probably be taken with a pinch of salt. I assume that they are fairly ....erm...comprehensive(?!)]


gkalpakas


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Posted : Jul 23, 2002 21:02
And even if a promoter sorts everything out (land,police, line up e.t.c.)
you can never trust the british weather. In my country no one leaves home when is raining.
On top of that U.K. is *****expensive for people to travel there
The Big Chill festivals though were succesfull in the past (maybe it is different scene but the atmosphere is somehow similar in outdoor events)
biggins


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Posted : Jul 24, 2002 18:50
looking back at these posts, they all seem fairly negative. This is certainly not the way it is though! There are a lot of enthusiatic people out there looking at doing parties. this is all over the country as well which is blinding. We have such a beautiful land (yep sometimes you have to look hard and yes it does rain alot) it just seems to me that its a scale issue. It would be VERY hard to pull off a VOAMA but if you can content yourself with one night, maybe two, then theres rafts of places to go. I think you just have to be responsible and respectful. My girlfriend ended up giving her name and address at the start of our last party and whilst i know a lot of people would NEVER do this i think it shows that if you play by the (unspoken) rules then you can get away from it. I firmly believe that had she not done that then they would've shut us down and that would've been that!!
Up and at 'em that what i say, well maybe when i've recovered from Voov (on my way now HURRAY!!).

MonasticSquid
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Posted : Jul 25, 2002 01:10
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On 2002-07-23 21:02, gkalpakas wrote:
"And even if a promoter sorts everything out (land,police, line up e.t.c.)
you can never trust the british weather. In my country no one leaves home when is raining."
..dude... some of my best memories are from dancing in the rain..!! its fantastic (if u dont mind getting wet!!) - and so long as it's not cold!.. e.g.. last year, Liquid Con./ID spiral -Kent - party in the woods - Shane Gobi playing.. as his set reached it's 1st climax.. the clouds burst 'on cue'... and we were like dancing in drops of silver & light... it was like he was controling the elements... pure ALCHEMY
.. people I know still talk about it .....( I am now innit) ... he he           ---------------------------------------------
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gkalpakas


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Posted : Jul 25, 2002 13:52
yeah right, rain is really nasty for me when I am out in the woods. Ok I 've enjoyed a rainfall while I was dancing on a Thai beach, but the English country can get really messy when is raining.
I remember a party in a Cornwall forest a few years ago where the rain create such a muddy terain where I nearly lost my shoes walking on it.
On top of that most cars where stuck and a tractor came to pull them out. I spend most of the party hiding in our van, and in the morning I felt like crying to go back home......
Sorry a mudfest does not appeal to me.
Plus it is not safe at all being outdoors when is raining (hello pneumonia!!!!) plus the trees can attract thunderstrikes.
gkalpakas


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Posted : Jul 25, 2002 18:01
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On 2002-07-24 18:50, biggins wrote:
looking back at these posts, they all seem fairly negative. This is certainly not the way it is though! There are a lot of enthusiatic people out there looking at doing parties. this is all over the country as well which is blinding. We have such a beautiful land (yep sometimes you have to look hard and yes it does rain alot)


Yes I agree there are lot of enthusiastic people out there and I respect them that they throw mostly free events ( i am free party believer and supporter).
I am not being negative just realistic,and it seems hard to have a voov or voama in UK.
Who ever suss such a thing has my respect and I will be the first to come and the last to leave the party.
Also i feel like pointing out that although I hate rain especcially the english one, the british countryside is beautiful and its colours look more bright when wet. It is a unique dinstictive colour and smell like all countrysides in the world have their own. But still I 'd rather enjoy the unique beauty of english countryside when it is raining from the inside of a car.
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