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What are israeli trancers attitudes towards palestinians ?
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:21
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he would never say such a thing here in israel most of the public in israel support the idea of an palastine state |
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Ben P
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:22
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@shamanizer
u may believe your media is true and unbiased and our media is biased and it does sound logical(israel is a side in the story and finland isn't) but i think i would have more idea when im fooled buy the media and when not. because im here and i used to be in the army 1/2 years ago and i was almost in evry palstinian city so i know the situation and i can tell you its far from what you see in your news.
just for some example there is a pic in "Time-Magzine" of an israely citizen injured in the head near israeli solider and near it they the newspapers says that the the israeli injured guy is a plastinian and the solider near him hit him in the head. when the israeli injured guy show him self on Time-Magazine he sent theme a latter saying that his the guy in the photo but Time refused to take it back and write they had misstaken. |
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Ben P
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:31
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DanishViking
"The israeli state is also using a lot of terror (mass-murder too) to surpress and control it's occupied territories and it's many chained innocent people. So to say that only (a very very small percentage) of Muslims are terrorist is to be totally blinded by the israeli and american propaganda machine"
as some one whos been there i can tell you israel does not use mass-murder. and i dont know from where you got that idea.
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:34
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from the media:] |
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Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:40
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Danish Viking, i do have a feeling that you want just to argue with Israelis here rather than answering the question whether Palestinians visit Israli parties or not.
I wouldn't even mention that facts are always subjective and there is no fact in this thread at all.
I don't understnand one simple point, why is on Israeli psytrance forum there are questions like that, i think any Israeli who respect a bit his/her country should leave or ask to lock this thread, i do understand mods situation in here as well, if they close it then some nasty ppl will complain about freedom of speech, i would like to see Viking to visit Palestinian forum and ask the same questions there. Probably next day he will find out he has no house or something like that.
bottom line, it is easy to blame and go political whether there is no need and no logic in it but it is hard to understand.
Moreover just to mention have Danish fought with Nazis? Don't you think you have good roots of relationship with jewish?
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shamanizer
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 14:40
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Ben P, my friend, Times Magazine doesn't have anything to do with Finnish media, besides, I already explained my self since I was being too straightforward in the beginning.
With all respect, have you seen Finnish news? I, on the other hand, lived in Israel for three years and also visited Palestinian territories and what I saw there matches pretty damn well with news I've seen on Finnish TV.
Ps. I was also working in Pacha, when a bomb was detoned outside among cueing people (actually I was working in the outside club, so I was safe) so I've seen both realities from pretty close distance (actually there's nothing pretty about it). |
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DanishViking
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 15:02
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All the ones here that know so much about the Media in Europe. Have you even been here and watched it yourself? I have been to Israel a lot of times. Just as shamanizer I have seen both sides. Have you even left your country once or even seen anything but isareli government controlled news?
All i see here is excuses and the usual retoric from israelis who cant handle the truth and any critisism at all.
And yes I saw Netanyahu on CNN standing in front of the Senate in Washington saying exactly what i wrote earlier. That he want all Palestinians into the Sea. So how many of you will vote for that psycho now that Sharon is out of the game? |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 15:11
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danishviking i didnt see you answer to adrenal mode
anyway netanyahu mabey he said it but again his actions showed diffrent views anyhow if he wants to to be a prime minister he cant talk here in israel that way you talking like to know the politics here in israel he actully wants to be more on the center political map and not in the right {personly i wouldnt vote for him} |
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Ben P
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Posted : Jan 15, 2006 15:26
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DanishViking i would never vote for that "psycho" though not for those reason you wrote since there is no chance in the world he said that.
Ive been out of israel but i havnt seen the news out of israel. because i dont watch news on vecation.
isareli government dont controll the news so its does perrty much match what i see in there.
on the otherhand i see people from europe talking about: "there is no muslim party in israel", "israel mass-murder", "Netanyahu want to through the palastinians to the see" which makes me think what ithink on the news your geting(or how else can those idea just poped in your head)
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