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Posted : Sep 25, 2006 14:30
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 25, 2006 15:38
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well very sad,
but this isnt a video about "militant" neo nazis.
its about a demonstraion against the right "npd" party
in germany.
the demo comes to a neonazi shop where the whole rally almost elscalates...
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alpman_
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Posted : Sep 25, 2006 17:45
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Fuck Fascism Before It Fucks You!!!!
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 08:10
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the best way to fight against racism and fascism
is education.
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gaspard
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 11:06
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On 2006-09-26 08:10, lokus wrote:
the best way to fight against racism and fascism
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sure, but giving some fascist wankers a good kicking is never a bad thing!
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 14:01
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^^
thats maybe nice for you
but violence always causes more violence
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Anak
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 15:04
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On 2006-09-26 08:10, lokus wrote:
the best way to fight against racism and fascism
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that is true for most of the neonazis you see in the foregorund...for those guys showed in the video. which can be described as uneducated people who have nothing to say of importance by themselves indeed.
but i believe it is very much not true for the people in the background...for the elder fascists who hold the speeches at the NPD party "convention", and who take the aforementioned ones under their wings. this has nothing to do with education anymore...they may be very intelligent and historically / biologically very well educated, but they have such a twisted perception of the world that it is even impossible to approach them with what is considered to be right and "the truth". by the way, these are the worst of them all. the same kind of shifty and craven people as adolf hitler who know how to use the negative vein and the fear of the younger population for the realisation of their sick ideas, and thus for their benefit. it is not for ideological reasons that i cant stand them (because ideologies alone are not dangerous), but for their abuse and exploitation of people who actually are poor poor people whom should be helped with giving back perspective to their lifes.
my thoughts.
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gaspard
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Posted : Sep 27, 2006 15:54
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On 2006-09-27 14:01, lokus wrote:
^^
thats maybe nice for you
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actually no its not nice for me at all. but have you ever come face to face with people like these in real life? and if so did you try and educate them before or after they smashed you face in?? these people are way beyond any kind of education. their solution is total war : the arian race against all the rest...
but i agree that education is the best means of action but this has to be done at school.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 28, 2006 09:36
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cmon gaspard,
of course you cant educate them when meeting them face to face
but thats not what i meant and you know that.
and yes i´ve met neonazis several times in real-life.
to run and calling the police is the best thing to do.
but when i got no choice i will defend myself.
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sure, but giving some fascist wankers a good kicking is never a bad thing!
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please dont misunderstand me but from what you wrote it seems to me you like to beat them.
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gaspard
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Posted : Sep 28, 2006 11:10
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ok so my words were a little strong.
but having been under attack from these people on several occasions has put a lot of anger and hate inside me towards them. these guys you see on the vid are just the muscle of a very sick movement. and i do think that one of the answers to muscle is muscle, even if that does sound a little primal.
how can you educate them? extremists generally remain in tight circles of people who confirm their ideas and ideals. i have heard of really rare cases of guys actually falling in love with women from ethnical minorites in their country and totally changing their ways of thought but these are rare cases.
this is a movement that needs head on resistance.. take a look at this directory:
http://www.mathaba.net/www/nazi/
it is happening and i really think passive education might be a little lost on them...
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 28, 2006 13:11
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well i meant education as a preventive action.
these guys will hardly change their mind and maybe some kick in the butt will be the appropriate answer to their beats.
there is a lot of nazi movement atm around the world
and its frighten me too.
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alpman_
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Posted : Sep 29, 2006 14:38
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would be great if it could be solved with no violence, but if you see in this video it is the nazi-bastards that gets violent by getting baseball bats, and kicking at the camera man...
and if a nazi comes up and start hitting on me, i would have give back..even if i problaby get my head ripped off..
was hoping that the green man would shoot the fat one in the leg
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lokus
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Posted : Sep 29, 2006 22:07
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...was hoping that the green man would shoot the fat one in the leg
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you naughty boy
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