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We need support for party in Serbia
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Freaked Frequency
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Posted : Dec 12, 2006 06:58
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well .. all of u got some points there ..
but its sad that someone who, as i can see from this post, actualy doesnt know shit about serbian scene says something like this..
Sattwa .. grow up man .. point is that the guy u sead knows nothing about organising parties in serbia knows much more then u can, as i can see, even imagine .. so .. next time try to get some infos before u open ur mouth ..
2nd .. kindzadza and goa gil are trance parties and other are not ?? lol .. do u even know what trance means .. trance is not only psy or full on or bla bla bla .. trance is something compleetly wide .. and of course that there are much more TRANCE parties in serbia .. every weekend u hv them .. they are crappy and lame but they're happening all the time .. allsow .. if they're not by ur taste .. well .. dont visit them .. but allsow dont exclue them from trance .. cuz they are .. more commercial then ur taste .. but they're trance ..
keep up with ur work and all .. and try to push ur part of the scene .. from my side i can only say go for it .. but to be honest .. i was allsow amased when i saw ur topic .. if u ask me .. i would never do such a thing .. maybe this is my mistake .. but i allsow think this is not serious .. thats all .. |
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Plutonic Records
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Posted : Dec 12, 2006 11:06
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Yeahh its true mate! I have read some comments about this one also..i can agree with some points there, with sattwa and with u & alternative control! BUT.. ur scene got fucked with bad motherf*ckers who were trying to organise a party, make money from it or just srew Artists by not paying them! Have heard many stories about serbian orgs..some of them are true and some not! U are having good organisation system there...for the most i respect STS and SOUNDMUTE ( they are working with passion for the music, heart and a lot of courrage ) so what to say next than just prase their guts!
* One point of it:
But u have also some commercial pop quazi skazi disco full on organisations as GS and XP!!! they are bugging eachothers by sending cops there, starting fights at the club and making bad promotion for them ( destroying flyers and other promotional material / guuuuys thats money, thats passion..stop fu*khing up the scene..relax, smoke a chillum, go sit on the balcony and enjoy ur life..stop shouting them out, stop fu*khing them...the people who are trying to raise ur country up on one respectful level )
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If u read the story (u know it ) about hitting Adam ( Para Halu )... i have never heard that or feel that kind of vibe in any other country..hey mates..this is psy trance we are talking about...where are shining faces, smiling faces, where is happiness, joy, passion for the music..c-mon... ????!!!???
and one other story from this weekend...when a lot of COPS ( around 60 of them ) they have entered the club ( DINO PSARAS has been playing i think / Party by XP - Xperiment organisation ) and they were starting to hit girls and all the people who were there..shame shame shame...and some people even say that this has been the guilty of one man in organisation called GS ( goasapiens...dont know about that...people, are saying and confirming that ) C- Mon..is thsi the right culture we are talking about..people, promotors, orgs, managers, booking agencies, DJz, artists are going to bojcot this country, if this will continue!!!
STOP it guys..relax and enjoy life!!!! U are a great country with good & nice people!!!
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Sattwa
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Posted : Dec 12, 2006 14:45
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I think that there is no purpose to review about our opinions. you don't know me i don't know u..time will show the truth about everything...
I'm just asking about your atitude to do something own....
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kikola
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Posted : Dec 12, 2006 19:53
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http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/101082/forum/1
I think that this should be discussed here also because it goes deeper than making false bomb alarms ( for example) and all the similar stuff. I reckon this is a fine example of the true Balkan spirit of envy/corruption and aggressiveness. It's needles to say that in the past we had similar things happening in our country and not necessarily connected with psy parties.
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Freaked Frequency
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Posted : Dec 12, 2006 21:04
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point is that trance become good business long time ago .. and big orgs are fighting .. and thats happening all arround the world .. not just balkan .. i've seen it many times in many different places .. point is that serbia has a strong scene for many years cuz all the names of trance .. depending of the period .. are gladly comming to play here .. when i say names i mean the popular ppl .. commercial .. or how ever u wana name them .. so .. we're not brazil or mexico that hv scene for 5 years .. we hv this scene for 10 -15 years .. and party making business is not fun anymore .. its money making .. so that is why this is happening .. and there is no way of fixing this .. stop living in the clouds and get real .. trance party = business .. at least on all the places i've been .. |
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Plutonic Records
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Posted : Dec 13, 2006 14:38
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On 2006-12-12 21:04, Freaked Frequency wrote:
point is that trance become good business long time ago .. and big orgs are fighting .. and thats happening all arround the world .. not just balkan .. i've seen it many times in many different places .. point is that serbia has a strong scene for many years cuz all the names of trance .. depending of the period .. are gladly comming to play here .. when i say names i mean the popular ppl .. commercial .. or how ever u wana name them .. so .. we're not brazil or mexico that hv scene for 5 years .. we hv this scene for 10 -15 years .. and party making business is not fun anymore .. its money making .. so that is why this is happening .. and there is no way of fixing this .. stop living in the clouds and get real .. trance party = business .. at least on all the places i've been ..
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similar as i have said 
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Dec 13, 2006 14:56
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On 2006-12-12 21:04, Freaked Frequency wrote:
point is that trance become good business long time ago .. and big orgs are fighting .. and thats happening all arround the world .. not just balkan .. i've seen it many times in many different places .. point is that serbia has a strong scene for many years cuz all the names of trance .. depending of the period .. are gladly comming to play here .. when i say names i mean the popular ppl .. commercial .. or how ever u wana name them .. so .. we're not brazil or mexico that hv scene for 5 years .. we hv this scene for 10 -15 years .. and party making business is not fun anymore .. its money making .. so that is why this is happening .. and there is no way of fixing this .. stop living in the clouds and get real .. trance party = business .. at least on all the places i've been ..
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Well i was beeing at the psytrance parties over Germany, Belgium, France, Holland, Spain, Portugal, Marroco, Austria at small underground ones and also the bigones indoors comercial, but in 13 years i never saw police beating the crowd or artists or any of this behaviour. So to say because they are making money they must beat the people and having this attitude coom on this is not Godfather or any mafia movie
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Freaked Frequency
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Posted : Dec 14, 2006 01:39
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tell me .. where did i justify beating of ppl on the parties .. i've sead organisers fighting .. not literal .. i ment fighting for teritory .. like u make party i do 1 aswell so u can loose money .. etc .. next time use ur eyes better and read exactly what someone wrote
that with police is another issue and has nothing to do with our mentality .. it has some other issues that i cant discuss with u cuz u hv no clue about our situation ..
allsow .. that shit with para halu was something that happened once and im pretty sure never again in serbia .. that org was junky, criminal etc .. our regualr ogrs, and u can ask tones of artists that hv been here, are totaly disent .. |
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Posted : Dec 14, 2006 03:04
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Dec 14, 2006 11:33
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On 2006-12-12 21:04, Freaked Frequency wrote:
and party making business is not fun anymore .. its money making .. so that is why this is happening .. and there is no way of fixing this ..
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I was not saying that you justify this, but here above you are explaining that because it´s money making thing, this kind of things happens and i say not everywhere. and i do know pretty much about your country,
peace and love
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Sattwa
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Posted : Dec 16, 2006 02:43
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Psy trance should stay underground.... All circles which have trend to become wide predict disintegration . . .
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Posted : Dec 16, 2006 18:47
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Arronax
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Posted : Dec 16, 2006 20:44
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commercialism in music doesn't mean selling tracks or asking money for live acts... it means commercialising on euro/usa-pop TV stations, it means making stupid commercials for Pepsi and Coke  , like Bitchney stuff... Commercial music is a special form of "culture", and it's energy is being accumulated from filthy money, not from spirit and love towards art.
Mainstream is something else... Don't you agree that it would be very nice to have tranceheads allover the world, running the things all around the globe, in a peaceful way? Mainstream REAL trance culture would affect entire world's culture but unfortunately, very often, mainstream music becomes an instrument of commercialisation, because greedy people want to instrumentalise everything for their own good.
That's what's happening to trance right now.. Some "leading" tranceheads saw the chance of huge money making, so they decided to screw the scene from behind, in the backbone... i hope that there will be more and more REAL trancers, who don't care about money or greed.. We don't need VIP, ultra-fashioned, MTV, coco-smelly "trancers" who are coming to parties just to be seen, or those who are attending parties just to have a dope!
That's sick behavior!
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Sattwa
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Posted : Dec 17, 2006 17:32
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Trance is becoming a real chaos without the right leaders (who should have the higher goals) |
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kikola
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Posted : Dec 17, 2006 18:11
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On 2006-12-17 17:32, Sattwa wrote:
Trance is becoming a real chaos without the right leaders (who should have the higher goals)
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word!
everything is becoming chaotic without the proper leadership ;-)
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